Silverwolf Wrote:Ryuuku, you were one of the people who said no dont remove anything, and now your saying the state should intervene??
seriously now, wtf... you people contradict yourselves from one post to another LMAO. this is a joke.
Wipe dont solve NOTHING!
Dont need more than a week to people start doing it again.
People who says wipe gold, is cause dont play for more than a year.
The amount of money you have dont mean you gonna sell things cheaper, look at rabbi he got 55mill and he dont low a coin in his prices.
What broke the economy is dumb people.
Silverwolf Wrote:Jamie you know as much as I know that I dont care 2 cents about items... You know that money for me isnt a problem and I can get it at anytime. you know that I can live off of 1 set of armor and not care, cause I'm a pvper and I dont need much more than my scrolls/pots/and reags... and i have my gmed alchemy and inscript...
so im definately not complaining because you guys had the time to get more gold or what not by playing when it was slow...
all major servers, or i would say, 80% of them... died because of economys being f'ed...
IF theres no VALUE to the most VALUABLE things your selling. than theres NO REASON to be playing... nothing will attract you to continue playing because EVERYTHING is at the tip of your fingers... that's the problem...
If we was just to remove certain things or REDUCE the amount of them a little, it would help big time...
Jamie, at the end of the day... IF people removed scrolls/pots/ AND EVEN armors... you have GM blacksmith, alchemy, inscript... ETC...
it's not like starting from scratch because you have all your skills already, getting the potions or scrolls isn't hard at all.. PLUS you get a starting package of 250k!! man thats enough to start your own scrolls/pots business again...
this isn't a drastic change if items get removed, it will make things more valuable and WORTH playing for... again... thats my opinion and its based on FACTS..
even if they removed gold, people would buy other shit and it would be ****ed anyways like statics vendors etc like eru pointed out so i rather just keep my money then starting over again
you should see a bite for a new players, you want are rich selling 1000 bs scroll or 1000 ev scrolls... ¬¬ I will break your economy with my prices... ^^
I must say that economy isn't really my thing unfortunately. Wiping the gold isn't an option here but I would like to hear suggestions on how we can make the economy better in other ways.
The casino is a decent money sink but not enough.
There aren't that much gold in the world imo though. 15 players have more than 1 million gold and only 5 players more than 2 million gold. Granted items and houses aren't counted but still.
But yeah, keep the ideas coming on how we can make the economy better.
Make Craft Skills Even Harder ! (Inscription and Alchemy too)
What if we wiped items and left gold. Except for Rabbi's 55 million thats insane. Btw, didn't he get all that money by exploiting something that was eventually did away with?
-Raise the price on reagrements? Increasing value on scrolls/pots... EVEN if it's a temportary thing untill things are balance, and prices can go back to normal.
-Introduce new types of items... New Armors is a big one, because Taran people have THOUSANDS of one type of ingot, you can check that out.
-New decos? house decos,plants,statues,tiles,etc.. worth a decent amount, appealing to the richer audiance
-New Types of rides. Meaning, new colored Llamas, Zos, Stangs, Orns, etc...
- Temporarily make scrolls and pots harder to make, make it a greater chance to fail, so people will balance their selling prices a little.
all i got so far...
Bottom line is guys, if the players themselves dont agree than change will never happen. ofcourse u can go buy houses n shit so you can resell and get money back... but the idea is not to trick you or have to force you to sell, it's too do it as a team, as a server.
At the end of the day, i'm not the one who put HOURS of scripting and such for this server, and if it was me, i would take my position as administrator to make changes for the better of my server, even if it upsets certain people.
but im not so it doesnt matter lol.. ill just go with the flowwww.
Ryuuku Wrote:Make Craft Skills Even Harder ! (Inscription and Alchemy too)
By doing that you would just ensure the new people wouldn't GM those skills when they can get kegs for 4500.
Epistemology Wrote:What if we wiped items and left gold. Except for Rabbi's 55 million thats insane. Btw, didn't he get all that money by exploiting something that was eventually did away with?
you dont even need to ask that question.... I guarantee more than half of that was exploited and the rest made himself... he just probably didnt get caught at the time. and i bet he made all of that off of sheep...
Epistemology Wrote:By doing that you would just ensure the new people wouldn't GM those skills when they can get kegs for 4500.
no need to make the skill harder, cause its hard enough... just make it harder to succeed to make a pot/scroll
Heres a concept.
What if we had a huge wipe, like everything is gone, and all the players who have put tons of time and energy into the shard when it was at its lowest get assigned statics when the new server launches and from that point on, no one is allowed to have statics, just the people who sacrificed all their old stuff?
I think that is a killer idea.