[imported_Kamos]

I don't have blacksmithy GM'd so nobody can say I'm biased about it

That's exactly why you are biased. You don't know how's the grass on other side of the fence. You can make small sales, sure, but items you mentioned are not money making machines you think they are. For example, just a few days ago I tried crafting a sapphire set. Right off the bat I failed plate legs 4 times in a row. Think about the amount of money gone down the drain. You are just better off selling the ingots you have if money is what you are after.

To be honest, there is no point in having adaman or sapphire set except if you are a person who likes to sit on top of bank and sport his armor for newbies or you are a perfectionist dueler. It's a lot easier to craft exceptional set of oceanic or daemon steel and use that for dueling. Only a few less AR than exceptional sapphire or adaman and many times cheaper and easier to get.

Crafted weapons, who the hell uses them? There is no point to run around ganking with a weapon that is worth 50k+. That leaves only dueling and if you have looked around nobody uses them to duel. There just simply is no market for them, other than people might buy one "just to have one" to stash in depths of their bank box.

Just because Hell's Halberd is expensive to craft and people ask 80k for one doesn't make it a good deal. Bad deals like that don't get much demand and if there is no demand your goods aren't selling. Smithing, as it is, is mostly useless. It can be a small source of income but you'll take a very long time to break even considering all the money and/or time you put into GMing it.

[imported_Rabbi Samild]

Smithing is too easy as it is. When I joined the shard, I mined and smithed for 6 days. I GMed smithing in that time and bought a castle. If anything, MAKE IT HARDER!

It was made easier when staff decided you could make iron daggers out of old copper, verite, and every other junk ingot!

[imported_p!nk dr@g0n]

Smithing is too easy as it is. When I joined the shard, I mined and smithed for 6 days. I GMed smithing in that time and bought a castle. If anything, MAKE IT HARDER!

It was made easier when staff decided you could make iron daggers out of old copper, verite, and every other junk ingot!

Liar. We got your point, you want it harder, but you don't need to bring lies into the discussion.
It took me 3 years to GM it, I mined 16 hours a day (afk also with a script that beat the afk gump), and smithed 8 hours a day. And my script was so leet it can't be done faster! :eek:

[smoke]

yeah im going to say bs to that one, it took me a month to gm mining and get the ingots for blacksmithy and i mined all of the last month of summer NON STOP a good 20 hours a day (yes i had no life) so to gm those skills and get a castel is far fetch

[imported_Kandorin]

yeah im going to say bs to that one, it took me a month to gm mining and get the ingots for blacksmithy and i mined all of the last month of summer NON STOP a good 20 hours a day (yes i had no life) so to gm those skills and get a castel is far fetch

rofl.

[smoke]

rofl.

if your laughing at me compared to rabbi i'm a joke and hes your guildmaster so i wouldn't laugh so much

[imported_p!nk dr@g0n]

rofl.

You're an idiot.

[imported_Kandorin]

if your laughing at me compared to rabbi i'm a joke and hes your guildmaster so i wouldn't laugh so much

But I always knew that Rabbi didn't had a life

[imported_Kandorin]

You're an idiot.

Head + Oven for you mate.

[imported_Taran]

Skillgain will never change again. Never ever.

And FYI, blacksmithing takes 5-6 days if you have a good macro and train 24 hours a day.

[imported_LudaKrishna]

it's not the 5-6 days of macroing of bs the problem. the problem is the amount of ingots u need which sets the time for actually doing this skill.

anyways 150K ingots would be better than 300K ingots is my argument.

[imported_Rabbi Samild]

Check the logs, maybe it was 8-9 days, but I had a castle, GM smithing, and GM mining in a super short time. It's always been pretty easy.

By the way, SINCE WHEN CAN YOU MAKE IRON DAGGERS OUT OF OLD COPPER AND OTHER NON-IRON INGOTS?

I had to use 250k iron ingots...