[imported_p!nk dr@g0n]

I think blacksmithing is unreasonably hard to GM... A lot of people already have the skill GM'd which doesn't make it very valuable in that sense, and the reward is only a smith's hammer.

I gained 6 points from 80.9 to 81.5 from 5k ingots making daggers... Thats approximately 1 point per 280 daggers. Assuming it gets harder and harder, I guess I'll have to make about 280*185(points left to GM)*2(since it gets a bit harder) = 103k daggers to GM, which is 309k ingots, which is more than 3 mill if I sell it. For 3 mill I can buy several exceptional adamantium and sapphire armors and a max bard and some pvp supplies. What's the meaning of GM'ing the skill if it's this hard and costs (well since I mine it doesn't cost me anything but time, but since I have the option of choosing between 309k ingots and 3 mill (because I can sell it) it does in some sense) this much?

The gain from GM'ing it seems EXTREMELY unproportional to the effort to GM it...

Suggestion: Make it easier, a lot easier.

[imported_Kandorin]

No no no. Please do not make Crafting skills easier or it will become a damn joke. Blacksmith is good as it is, in fact it should be harder.

[imported_p!nk dr@g0n]

Dude it already is a joke. And I saw you standing right next to me in <secret> also macroing BS (I assume, or perhaps you were just crafting to sell, but selling ingots is more profitable than selling daggers/gorgets to NPC's)! You got like a gazillion ingots or something? That why you want it harder?

Harvesting enough ingots for GM'ing the skill takes AT LEAST one month if you mine A LOT, then you need like at least a week more to GM the skill...

[imported_Ryuuku]

You need around 250K ingots.

If you are going to buy them all for sure it gonna be expensive to GM!

Go Mine .

And no worries Kan, I doubt it gonna be made easier.

[imported_p!nk dr@g0n]

If you are going to buy them all for sure it gonna be expensive to GM!

Go Mine.

I'd be glad if you at least read my post before you replied. Is that too much to ask?

[imported_Ryuuku]

I read, and I repeat, Go Mine.

Lock a Char at 50 and mine.

[imported_p!nk dr@g0n]

[...]well since I mine it doesn't cost me anything but time, but since I have the option of choosing between 309k ingots and 3 mill (because I can sell it) it does in some sense[...]

I read, and I repeat, Go Mine.

No, you don't.

[imported_Ryuuku]

If you think it dont worth the effort, Simple, DONT GM IT!

[imported_LudaKrishna]

DONT GM IT!

thats the option i chose since i saw how long it would take lol

[imported_Kandorin]

Dude it already is a joke. And I saw you standing right next to me in <secret> also macroing BS (I assume, or perhaps you were just crafting to sell, but selling ingots is more profitable than selling daggers/gorgets to NPC's)! You got like a gazillion ingots or something? That why you want it harder?

Harvesting enough ingots for GM'ing the skill takes AT LEAST one month if you mine A LOT, then you need like at least a week more to GM the skill...

No. I actually have been mining during the day, and blacksmithing during the night. I also buy ingots sometimes.

[imported_p!nk dr@g0n]

No. I actually have been mining during the day, and blacksmithing during the night. I also buy ingots sometimes.

For how long have you been doing it and how much have you gained? Don't you think it's too slow? I don't have to GM it, I have people that can smith my ingots for free. It's just that it would be convenient to have it GM'd myself. But 3 mill worth of ingots is way too much for it.

[imported_Kandorin]

I dont think its too slow. I was used to IN1 skill gain which was slower than this. I get 2.0 gains per night or so. Using around 4/5k ingots. I started training BS sometime ago then I stoped it when I stoped playing UO for few months. But in a week i went from 65 to 90, mining and buying some ingots.