[maka]

Back in the day, me and my friend could wait 2 hours for a guy to leave pits, just so that we could get his gear. I've probably gotten at least 10 gears this way, without having to hunt a single second (had to stand "afk" a few obviously:p). Now, that being said, my actions and similar ones have also made a few people quit.

I personally think that pits provides for a ruthless, newbie unfriendly, environment. It does have it's up sides though, at least with our current player base. I would like to see how things would be working without pits, as we said in the begging, and I see no reason why not to do so.

I've noticed that as soon as someone says "lets change the PvP", we say "it was promised to us in the merge", and that's that. Maybe we shouldn't forget about promises that doesn't benefit "our" way of playing the game.

[imported_Odium]

and how is this a pits issue? i still dont get what the sh or ocllo pad have to do with anything.

ok a blue that want to learn pvp wont go there, wow? a red player will go there in order to do anything..

[imported_Taran]

I'll remove pits today after server restart. It will be gone for at least 1 week, depending on what the outcome is.

[imported_Odium]

let ppl idel in houses instead they will stillr ecall to same old ocllo and sh

[imported_Gang-Bang]

So there will be no duel arena too ? Where will be gates to tourney arena?

[imported_Taran]

Well we did promise 2 weeks without pits from the beginning.

Gates will be moved to outside Brit bridge and they will also be placed inside Brit.

[imported_Gang-Bang]

And how you think people will gank there? if once someone attacked them they can run into safe zone??? omfg... i just cant understand it... maybe u could put rune like to pits, but to tourney arena and duel arena then? And why not put Gate or rune in some red city? Cos blues can just stay and dont let reds enter to that gate, by abusing, Harm then runaway in gz... Omfg, maybe u should think a bit more ???

[imported_Lederoil]

Odium

First of all.. Most of the PVPers aren't afk, they're waiting in the pad room, waiting for someone to step on the red pads. Read Maka's post please, this is also how it works on IN:X if you haven't noticed.

ok a blue that want to learn pvp wont go there, wow? a red player will go there in order to do anything..

The point is; The pvp you have is not attractive at all in the first place. There have been several people leaving this shard because of their dissatisfaction of the PVP.

A common arguement from 'your side' is that once you tried it you will see the light in it. Well, how do you think people would get into this pvp if they have no place to PVP? Removing the pads, will hopefully make reds go to the britain bridge, which will make blue vs. red wars. The thing about these wars, is that blue, newbies can easily try out and be a small part of the fight by doing the few things the know. They will also slowly learn, and problably see the light as you describe it in this PVP.

And how you think people will gank there? if once someone attacked them they can run into safe zone??? omfg... i just cant understand it... maybe u could put rune like to pits, but to tourney arena and duel arena then?

I'm just curious... Have you actually never participated in a britain bridge war? It's not like you're running around on the bridge like there were walls pretending you to go somewhere else. The reds can easily move the war further from the bridge.. You're the bait, it's your choise where you want the blues to come.

[imported_Odium]

yes he have so have i. its not like the blue ppl follow out from town. nto at all. now ye..


and your post is so false in so manty ways i laugh.


its 2 red players who wait.
its 20 ppl who are afk.

this could also be solved by making teleporters go to diffrent locations than to remove the whole pits idea. ffs and stop qout me. your talkign bout something that i can in 10sec se is totaly wrong and false.

[imported_Sindern]

another good tactic is to have a friend be a blue and cast walls behind the other blues when they run outside.

Also, this topic is going to get to be soooo long. 0_o

When it comes to the reds' pits rune though, you might put it further away from britain so that if any blues decide to be jerks, they'll have a long run back to the guards. Possibly over inside the old stables across from the casino.

[imported_Gang-Bang]

I think i was at those wars alot more often than you. And never seen that someone of blues dares to go out of bridge when we waited them near casino. They didnt moved. Cos they scared that someone of their blue "friends" will cast walls behind them and they can run back. And btw, im still recalling there everytime, but i never seen someone, thats why we gank in ocllo. And i really think that we need gate to tourney arena/duel arena in some red city. What the **** descrimination? Why u place gate in blue city, and dont place it in red city?

[smoke]

Odium

First of all.. Most of the PVPers aren't afk, they're waiting in the pad room, waiting for someone to step on the red pads. Read Maka's post please, this is also how it works on IN:X if you haven't noticed.



The point is; The pvp you have is not attractive at all in the first place. There have been several people leaving this shard because of their dissatisfaction of the PVP.

A common arguement from 'your side' is that once you tried it you will see the light in it. Well, how do you think people would get into this pvp if they have no place to PVP? Removing the pads, will hopefully make reds go to the britain bridge, which will make blue vs. red wars. The thing about these wars, is that blue, newbies can easily try out and be a small part of the fight by doing the few things the know. They will also slowly learn, and problably see the light as you describe it in this PVP.



I'm just curious... Have you actually never participated in a britain bridge war? It's not like you're running around on the bridge like there were walls pretending you to go somewhere else. The reds can easily move the war further from the bridge.. You're the bait, it's your choise where you want the blues to come.

Ok first off you basically pointed out that players are leaving the shard because of the boring pvp. Well the skill gain is definetly hard here so it's not mainly the pvp and we were promised it as it is STATED in maka's post above.


Also you said have we even been in a britan bridge war LOL yes we have. Considering me scare gang silverwolf and aptar started them and let me tell you there boring and stupid and pointless. All the blues ever do is run into town calling guards and you waste tons more supplys then going to pvp in occlo. I think the question is have you ever done a brit bridge war in this shard with out pvp? No I bet you haven't you just consider that it's pointless to try out the pvp because your afraid to lose items witch is totally retarded.

I don't mind if you flame me for stating my opinion I just want to hear some thoughts about this in the thread :/