02-05-2007, 08:51 PM
juggobuggo Wrote:XUO was about two great things: pvp and duel pits. And you want both to be changed, when this is a merge of TWO shards, where actually at the point of merge xuo had more than twice your player base. Don't you see how immature it is to say that pvp and duel pits sucks when you have played one day at beta with this? Don't you think pvp and duel pits would be removed if it wasn't great, I mean it has been there for 5(?) years.
This isn't meant to flame you, so let me explain why we have this spam, and why duel pits is a big part of the XUO community.
Obviously, words of power is a big part of the old school feeling, that's the reason why we can't filter them. Now, at old times, people would make fake WOP macros with regular speech in different color. The problem with this is, that regular UO players couldn't see a difference between "fake" and "real" ones, while players with injection could.
Maka however, made a solution to this with [wop command, so inject users can't filter the "fake" WOP.
Let me ask you, how good are you at XUO pvp? If we would make a rule against "spamming" WOP, do you have any idea how long time a duel would take if two GOOD players were duelling each other? To be honest, I believe some of these duels would last HOURS, or until one of them got bored. XUO PVP IS ABOUT BEING UNPREDICTABLE, TO MAKE YOUR OPPONENT NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
WOP spam is ESSENTIAL because of this reason. Sure, we could make a rule against WOP spam, and have duels lasting forever, a 1vs1 could take 12 hours, is that what you want?
Or, we could keep your old pvp from IN:R, I heard it was really great :icon_twisted:
Regarding duel pits, it's loved by XUO players, since it's a place to hang out and meet new friends, get to know who the players are irl, have a nice chat and just chill. Since XUO always has been a pvp shard, we haven't made our friends "adventuring", we made most our friends by hanging out in duel pits. See it as a chat room if you like. It's also a place for players to organize ganking groups etc.
And guess what? Nobody will force you to go there, so instead of whining on the forums you could just stay in Britain or whatever place you like to hang around.
People need to realize that this is TWO shards merging, we need to keep the essence of both shards alive.
To be honest, I really HATE the decoration in dungeons. The reason for this is that it ruins the old school feeling for me. For me this game is nostalgic and I want places to look like they always have. BUT I don't post threads here about removing decorations. Hell, I don't even want them removed cause this isn't XUO's shard, it's both XUO and IN:R and I know decorations are a big part of IN, obviously I want you too to feel "home" at the new shards.
This post isn't meant to be offensive to anyone, this is just how ways are from my point of view.
Ok, first im talking about the SPAM, not the words of power. Maka said he was going to make a filter, that will allow max 10 words of power each 4 secounds. And that is still a spam! and you use it to hide your spell, not to trick your opponents.
And now a question. I dont know much about the xuopvp, i've tried it out a bit, and seen people fought in the pits. But wouldnt it work, if you use some few words of power, per minutes, instead of spamming it?
You wrote;
"Regarding duel pits, it's loved by XUO players, since it's a place to hang out and meet new friends, get to know who the players are irl, have a nice chat and just chill. Since XUO always has been a pvp shard, we haven't made our friends "adventuring", we made most our friends by hanging out in duel pits. See it as a chat room if you like. It's also a place for players to organize ganking groups etc.
And guess what? Nobody will force you to go there, so instead of whining on the forums you could just stay in Britain or whatever place you like to hang around."
That would ruin all the rp and all the real drama. And yes, people ARE forced in a way to go there! To contact traders, to talk with some of their friends who would hang there even if you decied to not be there. If they removed the pits, do you think people will stop hanging with eachother? No, they would be at the bank for example. If your friends are reds, maybe you'll hang at the bridge? But then the reds can kill the ones who isnt welcomed and so on.
And yes, its two shards merdging, but what did we get? (im really asking)
EDIT:
Almost forgot, i've seen maka and many others who said that pvp allways ends with hitting the wrong key. Its the same thing with other pvp-styles. Not even a simple IN:R-duel took long. And you wrote something sarcastic about our pvpsystem yes, it was simple, and it was pretty easy to learn. I loved it, and i thought it was fun as hell.
Off Topic; How do you insert smilies when you're editing a post?