[maka]

I'm not sure why you think I've "FINALLY" realized this, I've been reading every whine topic I've seen, and yes, this is actually still whine to me. Only thing I said was that the whine does mean something, and I think Taran agrees cause he said he would look into it, like 150 posts back. Problems are taken seriously, but so are the manner in which they are presented.

It is understandable that the "skill gain wont change" might aggravate people even more, but fact is, it is Tarans honest opinion that skill gain is fine. People screaming in a childish manner will not change his opinion about that. If that is cause we are veterans that knows the how-tos, while most players starting are not (really?), then we do have a slight problem we need to fix somehow.

Now on the things you actually said. I haven't seen a lot of people say that skill gain needs to be changed, I've seen some, but far from the majority. What I have seen though is people asking to make the server an easier place to start out on, and that to me, doesn't have a lot to do with skill gain. You can make the place a lot easier, but still having the skill gain somewhat hard, if you provide a means to train those skills.

That is the reason to why I said "stop talking about skill gains, it wont change". Because if we stop talking about that, we might actually talk about something that will increase our player count without changing something the administration/staff actually think is fine.

Talk about making more newbie hunting spots with adequate gold/reagents drop for magery training. Talk about adding more information to where to hunt, and force-feed this information to new people. Talk about anything in any way you want, as long as it doesn't damage the client count like this can.