06-16-2009, 02:48 PM
Pros
It makes players log in more often - If someone doesn't want to play UO because they got bored of it, in the 30 seconds they log on to refresh their house, they won't see anything worth making them stay for. If we have 100 people who log on for 30 seconds just to refresh their house, that translates to a higher player count of 1 player for 50 minutes a day!! Wow what a great help that was :eek:
If players dont log in it eventually, reduces item count - If you want to reduce item count make more stackable items (something all the crafters actually want and doesn't have any cons to doing) and stop people from selling useless crap in the vendor mall like 1 piece of cloth for 1000000 gp...
It supports the fact that we aren't carebear - I don't see how being a carebear server or not has anything to do with this. You earned your items, good job now you get to keep them. Sorry I should say "you earned your items, good job now you should get to keep them". This is like telling an athlete congratulations on setting a world record... but since you haven't competed in the last 8 years we have to take it away from you.
It would show we care more about existing players then ones that bailed - A player is a player and I don't see how a new player is more valuable then a previous player. If anything, someone who previous played INX will have more of an 'allegiance' to it and they will be more likely to stick around compared to a new guy stopping by for 2 days to try it out. What would you prefer; someone coming back and playing for another year, or a new guy coming and stay for 2 days?
It keeps the environment changing, people will venture out more - I don't see how it's a big difference. Houses are locked and if you see a new house or an old house it doesn't change much for you, all it means is you can't have that spot. I stopped playing UO for about 1 - 1 1/2 years, when I came back I could only find 1 other house within a 10-15 minute run of my house so don't tell me there's no space for more houses... And what an exciting environment that is when houses decay; big empty spaces everywhere... I don't know about you but I rather run around the world and see houses with rare and unique items or armor sets on display to make me want to stick around and get these cool items instead of running through the world seeing empty spaces all over the place.
House decay was a sphere feature - Oh so we're supposed to be sphere only now, is that it? Well there are plenty of AOS features on this shard, I guess we better get rid of those.
Cons
People who bailed on us for over 3 months would be upset if they came back. - Aren't suggestions meant to attract players? This suggestion is going to keep people away and instead of being away for 3 months they will be away for 6 months, 12 months, or even forever.
Here's my list of pro's and con's that actually have an influence for people playing:
Pros:
Frees up space
Cons:
Pisses off old players who might come back and find all their stuff gone
Makes the world look empty and there's less cool stuff for others to see when they run around the world
Actually I did read it all but the refund idea doesn't seem too popular from other posts I read. Maybe I read them wrong but it doesn't seem too popular of an idea, hence why I said you'd have to remake the money.
OK great, please email me once this idea is implemented and I'll be sure to sell my house and keep everything in my bank because I know at one point I'll probably take a break from UO for an extended period of time (ex: start school again, get a new job, want to try out a new game (see Darkfall), etc).
Of course you'd say that, you have a static house and your hard earned items and house/house location don't seem to be threatened by this thread... Care to give reasons WHY they should be deleted and not just say they should be?
Here are my counter-suggestions to this thread:
1) Custom houses: When INX first went up the admins didn't want custom houses to be implemented because some people make ugly *ss houses that take away some of the good/rp/mature (whatever you want to call it) feeling to the shard.
Right now I don't see any measures in place to prevent ugly custom houses from being placed so here are a few things that can be done:
1a) Custom houses have to be approved before they're finalized.
1b) Once every month or every two months a GM checks out existing custom houses and deletes the ugly looking ones.
1c) You have a limited amount of time to design your custom house and leave it as a dirt patch before it's deleted and you're re-imbursed for it.
I've run around the world and seen one floor custom houses that just say "Hi" spelt out in different colored tiles. These useless houses are what takes up the precious space that people think there's none left of.
To avoid any biased opinions the GM can take a screen shot, post it in staff forums, and 2 other staff have to agree it's ugly/useless. The items in the house would be banked, the cost of the house reimbursed (fully or partially as a penalty for making an ugly/useless house)
2) Limit houses to 1 or 2 per ACCOUNT. There's no reason you can explain to me that you need more then 2 houses. 1 guild house and 1 personal house at the very most. Hell right now I have a little empty house next to mine just so someone else doesn't put one there...
3) Staff create more static houses in different towns or random spots around the world and put these up for auction. Take 30 minutes to decorate some of the empty houses in towns and maybe some people will want to buy them. Ex: the theatre in the northern part of Britain. This is a nice big house but it's empty and looks ugly right now so there isn't much of a reason to buy it.
Time to start work now, hope you enjoyed today's edition of a day in the mind of Eighty Swords
It makes players log in more often - If someone doesn't want to play UO because they got bored of it, in the 30 seconds they log on to refresh their house, they won't see anything worth making them stay for. If we have 100 people who log on for 30 seconds just to refresh their house, that translates to a higher player count of 1 player for 50 minutes a day!! Wow what a great help that was :eek:
If players dont log in it eventually, reduces item count - If you want to reduce item count make more stackable items (something all the crafters actually want and doesn't have any cons to doing) and stop people from selling useless crap in the vendor mall like 1 piece of cloth for 1000000 gp...
It supports the fact that we aren't carebear - I don't see how being a carebear server or not has anything to do with this. You earned your items, good job now you get to keep them. Sorry I should say "you earned your items, good job now you should get to keep them". This is like telling an athlete congratulations on setting a world record... but since you haven't competed in the last 8 years we have to take it away from you.
It would show we care more about existing players then ones that bailed - A player is a player and I don't see how a new player is more valuable then a previous player. If anything, someone who previous played INX will have more of an 'allegiance' to it and they will be more likely to stick around compared to a new guy stopping by for 2 days to try it out. What would you prefer; someone coming back and playing for another year, or a new guy coming and stay for 2 days?
It keeps the environment changing, people will venture out more - I don't see how it's a big difference. Houses are locked and if you see a new house or an old house it doesn't change much for you, all it means is you can't have that spot. I stopped playing UO for about 1 - 1 1/2 years, when I came back I could only find 1 other house within a 10-15 minute run of my house so don't tell me there's no space for more houses... And what an exciting environment that is when houses decay; big empty spaces everywhere... I don't know about you but I rather run around the world and see houses with rare and unique items or armor sets on display to make me want to stick around and get these cool items instead of running through the world seeing empty spaces all over the place.
House decay was a sphere feature - Oh so we're supposed to be sphere only now, is that it? Well there are plenty of AOS features on this shard, I guess we better get rid of those.
Cons
People who bailed on us for over 3 months would be upset if they came back. - Aren't suggestions meant to attract players? This suggestion is going to keep people away and instead of being away for 3 months they will be away for 6 months, 12 months, or even forever.
Here's my list of pro's and con's that actually have an influence for people playing:
Pros:
Frees up space
Cons:
Pisses off old players who might come back and find all their stuff gone
Makes the world look empty and there's less cool stuff for others to see when they run around the world
Ryuuku Wrote:Im starting to believe on Smoke when he says you dont read the entire post.
So if they do this you gonna have the money to get a new castle right away when you log in and open the bank.
Actually I did read it all but the refund idea doesn't seem too popular from other posts I read. Maybe I read them wrong but it doesn't seem too popular of an idea, hence why I said you'd have to remake the money.
Shade Wrote:I'd prefer them to drop. Wouldn't make much sense for them to magically fly into someone's bank. We don't have a bank limit so if a player is going to leave and aren't sure about coming back they can bank their things. Like I said though, if people don't want to lose their things they will log in more often. Once every 3 months is more then enough time.
OK great, please email me once this idea is implemented and I'll be sure to sell my house and keep everything in my bank because I know at one point I'll probably take a break from UO for an extended period of time (ex: start school again, get a new job, want to try out a new game (see Darkfall), etc).
Lederoil Wrote:Houses should decay for sure.
I don't see why we should keep the houses that all the leavers have left here. If they cry about how they lost their house and items that were in it, they shouldn't have quitted at the first place... The good spots should be for those who actually play now and not for the ones who played here for one month when the shard opened.
Of course you'd say that, you have a static house and your hard earned items and house/house location don't seem to be threatened by this thread... Care to give reasons WHY they should be deleted and not just say they should be?
Here are my counter-suggestions to this thread:
1) Custom houses: When INX first went up the admins didn't want custom houses to be implemented because some people make ugly *ss houses that take away some of the good/rp/mature (whatever you want to call it) feeling to the shard.
Right now I don't see any measures in place to prevent ugly custom houses from being placed so here are a few things that can be done:
1a) Custom houses have to be approved before they're finalized.
1b) Once every month or every two months a GM checks out existing custom houses and deletes the ugly looking ones.
1c) You have a limited amount of time to design your custom house and leave it as a dirt patch before it's deleted and you're re-imbursed for it.
I've run around the world and seen one floor custom houses that just say "Hi" spelt out in different colored tiles. These useless houses are what takes up the precious space that people think there's none left of.
To avoid any biased opinions the GM can take a screen shot, post it in staff forums, and 2 other staff have to agree it's ugly/useless. The items in the house would be banked, the cost of the house reimbursed (fully or partially as a penalty for making an ugly/useless house)
2) Limit houses to 1 or 2 per ACCOUNT. There's no reason you can explain to me that you need more then 2 houses. 1 guild house and 1 personal house at the very most. Hell right now I have a little empty house next to mine just so someone else doesn't put one there...
3) Staff create more static houses in different towns or random spots around the world and put these up for auction. Take 30 minutes to decorate some of the empty houses in towns and maybe some people will want to buy them. Ex: the theatre in the northern part of Britain. This is a nice big house but it's empty and looks ugly right now so there isn't much of a reason to buy it.
Time to start work now, hope you enjoyed today's edition of a day in the mind of Eighty Swords