[Eighty Swords]

You should have read the rest of my post...

When you create a character. You can choose 3 skills from the skillstone.
If you pick magery, resisting spells and healing or meditation. You don't need much resources because those are the only pvp skills you need resources for.

I did read your post yank, the whole thing I might add. What my post came down to is that I don't think when you take the skills I mentioned from the skill stone that you get them at 100. If you noticed I also suggested meditation over healing since healing doesn't take huge amounts of resources. Then again meditation can be done while you do magery and resisting spells, and after that if you aren't GM mediation you can use a nos fs scroll to finish it off so either way it won't make a big difference between those two. My suggestion did add one GM combat though and after a microscopic comparison between what we currently have (what you followed), eru's suggestion and my suggestion, that's the difference maker.

And of course just because one of us suggested something doesn't mean it will happen. The staff can still discuss it and maybe they will find my suggestion or what we currently offer isn't enough and what Eru said is too much and they will agree on a middle ground.

Eru also said go by logic rather than emotion and to me this is emotion. "No its too much blah" Alright sure but I can still see people not macroing the skills. And its not pvp skills yeah we use it to pvp but those exact skills are the only ones needed to hunt. Get some bs and ev scrolls and ur set

It's not from emotion what I posted, it's my opinion that going from what we currently offer (3 skills partway gmed) to 9-14 skills partway gmed is a huge leap. And yes, I understand that there are other skills that are useful for hunting such as peacemaking, provocation, discordance and that these all require musicianship, but the point I'm trying to make and that somehow everyone keeps missing is that these skills (peacemaking, provocation, discordance and musicianship) aren't 100% necessary for pvm whereas healing, meditation, magery, resisting spells are 100% necessary for both pvp and pvm. That's what I was getting at. Eru called these skills basic hunting skills, but they're not basic at all considering you can get by without them. Basic is the bare minimum needed to do something; healing, magery, meditation and resisting spells.

lol i love how eighty doesn't read posts and then he becomes a hypocrite and tells me to read his essays :badgrin:

smoke there's a difference between NOT READING something or MISSING 1 line or sentence of a post, or reading it wrong at first. In any case, I just didn't entirely agree with what Yank said and therefore I posted my opinion/suggestion. You didn't see me say "i'm not reading that <insert expletive here if desired>" so don't call me a hypocrite. Once again you are talking about something that you have no idea about...

However thank YOU for your contribution and most relevant post pertaining to the discussion at hand.