01-21-2009, 09:26 PM
Alright this thread is actually the result of many hours of discussion between myself and a few other people, both rpers and pvpers. I am not a hardcore xuo vet, nor am I one of the top pvpers on the shard. I'm from ***** originally and was mainly a pvper before coming here, but I thoroughly enjoy the rp aspect of IN:X and have come to like rp/pvp. So I'm not on either the IN side or the XUO side, I'm neutral and looking at this objectively. I can see some obvious problems with the pvp rewards system here, and thats what this thread is about.
I'll start by breaking down the reward stone and I think are some serious problems with it. The idea of these suggestions is to help bring pvpers back to IN:X.
1. PvP rewards should NOT be attainable by ANY other method than pvp.
2. Tickets should NOT be tradable, sellable, etc.
3. R/R weapon deed should NOT be buyable via the stone.
Largest tourny ever on IN:X was 31 people, and the reward was a recolored bracelet, not even r/r. There is a big difference between something that is rare and meaningful, and something that is impossible to get. I think anyone would realise with the current system a r/r weap is impossible to get even for the best pvpers. Which of course is why it was added to stone, but that seems to me to be a crappy way to get a r/r weap. r/r weap should only be available from very large weekly tours where a large portion of the best pvpers are attending. Also, this is not xuo, this is an rp/pvp server and 80% population at one tourny is NEVER going to happen. Wake up.
4. Tourny tickets should be restored to their original value of 10k per team tick.
5. Revamp of rewards:
* r/r Cloth deeds - 4 Tour Tickets
* r/r Jewelery - 5 Tour Tickets
* r/r Lantern/Torch/Candle - Between 6 and 8 tickets
* random tub - 1 Tour tickets - Even at one tick I doubt anyone will buy it because of gm tailor reward. Your favorite tub which you can get from tailor will always be better then 10 random tubs. Also currently its like 800k on stone, but gm tailor costs almost exactly the same, and you chose color. Colors are NOT rare here, so forget how much you've spent on tubs on other servers, the tailor reward has changed the dynamic completely.
Also, they should be available to buy for 150-200k from a vendor. Make them a marketable item, something people will collect and trade.
The stuff like warbear is just totally pointless for a pvper, but if someone wants to spend on it.. meh.
6. There MUST BE a weekly scheduled tour. THATS EVERY WEEK, yes I know its rough working around timetables, but its not that hard to clear two hours one day a week if your into it. One tour a month must be worth a r/r and it must be announced 3 days prior to the tourny. If we want pvpers back this is an absolute must.
Its been months now since I saw ANY tourny at all, its getting ****ing rediculous guys, seriously, if you are not into hosting tournies anymore then hire a staff member who will. If theres members of staff who no longer have the time to do staff duties, then retire them and get someone else who does have the time and motivation.
If its trust issues your having, I'm sure its not hard at all to browse through the logs of new staff once a week. Cheating GM's are easily cought by observant admins. The bottom line is, without staff in game to host events and add out of the ordinary fun to the shards gameplay, its a dead shard. It doesnt matter if you have plenty of staff doing stuff behind the scenes or answering pages. They are invisable to the average player, and so, non existant. Even a shard with 200 online will be boring without events, ganking does get old.
7. PvP tickets should ONLY BE GETTABLE BY PVP EVENTS.
No giving out tickets for monsterbash's and other such stuff. Either make a non pvp event ticket or just put a cheque on the mobs, I dont really care which.
Hrm, thats all for now, I'll just edit if I remember some things I forgot.
J
I'll start by breaking down the reward stone and I think are some serious problems with it. The idea of these suggestions is to help bring pvpers back to IN:X.
1. PvP rewards should NOT be attainable by ANY other method than pvp.
2. Tickets should NOT be tradable, sellable, etc.
3. R/R weapon deed should NOT be buyable via the stone.
Largest tourny ever on IN:X was 31 people, and the reward was a recolored bracelet, not even r/r. There is a big difference between something that is rare and meaningful, and something that is impossible to get. I think anyone would realise with the current system a r/r weap is impossible to get even for the best pvpers. Which of course is why it was added to stone, but that seems to me to be a crappy way to get a r/r weap. r/r weap should only be available from very large weekly tours where a large portion of the best pvpers are attending. Also, this is not xuo, this is an rp/pvp server and 80% population at one tourny is NEVER going to happen. Wake up.
4. Tourny tickets should be restored to their original value of 10k per team tick.
5. Revamp of rewards:
* r/r Cloth deeds - 4 Tour Tickets
* r/r Jewelery - 5 Tour Tickets
* r/r Lantern/Torch/Candle - Between 6 and 8 tickets
* random tub - 1 Tour tickets - Even at one tick I doubt anyone will buy it because of gm tailor reward. Your favorite tub which you can get from tailor will always be better then 10 random tubs. Also currently its like 800k on stone, but gm tailor costs almost exactly the same, and you chose color. Colors are NOT rare here, so forget how much you've spent on tubs on other servers, the tailor reward has changed the dynamic completely.
Also, they should be available to buy for 150-200k from a vendor. Make them a marketable item, something people will collect and trade.
The stuff like warbear is just totally pointless for a pvper, but if someone wants to spend on it.. meh.
6. There MUST BE a weekly scheduled tour. THATS EVERY WEEK, yes I know its rough working around timetables, but its not that hard to clear two hours one day a week if your into it. One tour a month must be worth a r/r and it must be announced 3 days prior to the tourny. If we want pvpers back this is an absolute must.
Its been months now since I saw ANY tourny at all, its getting ****ing rediculous guys, seriously, if you are not into hosting tournies anymore then hire a staff member who will. If theres members of staff who no longer have the time to do staff duties, then retire them and get someone else who does have the time and motivation.
If its trust issues your having, I'm sure its not hard at all to browse through the logs of new staff once a week. Cheating GM's are easily cought by observant admins. The bottom line is, without staff in game to host events and add out of the ordinary fun to the shards gameplay, its a dead shard. It doesnt matter if you have plenty of staff doing stuff behind the scenes or answering pages. They are invisable to the average player, and so, non existant. Even a shard with 200 online will be boring without events, ganking does get old.
7. PvP tickets should ONLY BE GETTABLE BY PVP EVENTS.
No giving out tickets for monsterbash's and other such stuff. Either make a non pvp event ticket or just put a cheque on the mobs, I dont really care which.
Hrm, thats all for now, I'll just edit if I remember some things I forgot.
J