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So almost everybody who pvps daily is wrong? Don't take that the wrong way but for me, the more I pvp the more I find the best tactics for me. Here it seems that everyone hasn't found their own but instead they found the way you must pvp.

There is really no specific way you "must" pvp except for that you have to first hit somebody (if he knows how to heal), and then use strong offensive spells to kill him when he's low on health. Now how to do that is all up to you, there's several ways.

- You can trick him into dumping on you, then magic reflecting yourself to get him to kill himself.

- You can heal from 3-4 xuo fses and then flamestrike back when he's low on health to kill him.

- You can hit him real hard, make him drink a pot, then hit him real hard again and finish him off with a few flames and lights.

- If he's naked u could just use energy bolts on his ass instead, way better vs naked.

- You could also make a sneaky flamestrike dump of several flamestrikes when he's taken a pot and isn't ready for it.

- If you want to stop a dump somebody's doing at u (with almost any scroll) u could just paralyze his ass, causing him to be unable to use anymore scrolls until he removes the paralyze with a harm, magic arrow, or anything else with low damage.

- If you're in the woods u can cast a wall of stone in front of your enemy to make him fizzle a dump and give time for u to get away.

- Same goes for invisiblity, u can hide during a dump with invisibility as well, if used combined with a spam u can probably surprise your enemy good.

- u can poison somebody, either with a poisoned weapon or the spell, and that'll be like a few extra dmg every now and then.

- If somebody magic reflects himself you'll have to be ready with either a magic arrow or harm to get rid of the reflect and then fast make an offensive attack.

I can go on and on.. same goes for ways to heal..

Greater heal scrolls are really fast but takes a lot of mana. Normal greater heals are about as fast as an FS scroll, so keep that in mind. Reflect scrolls are about as fast as a flamestrike scroll as well.

Now use all of this wisely and you'll have lots of variety in PvP, there's lots more too, I know that there's a few spells that aren't that great in this PvP, but hey - some spells always has to be "less good" for PvP at any shard.

We can probably make it so that if u weaken somebody with the weaken spell he hits a lil weaker or whatever, and let the "strength" spell let u hit a lil harder. But it all feels kind of minor changes in my eyes, and it's not going to change the PvP much, so which other spells are you missing since we apparantly only use two spells here at IN-X?

I don't feel it should take hours for the top pvpers to finish a duel. That to me sounds like an element of attack is missing.

Not at all, they are both just good at turning the duel around. First one guy is being attacked, then he turns it around and the other guy is attacked for a while, etc etc. Most duels does not last two hours but the fact that duels CAN last two hours if the players both are really really good is one of the charms about UO and this PvP in my opinion.

Aye, I may not be an expert on this but I am no fool either. What I should have said was damage spells, rather then attack spells. With this system it seems illogical to use anything but light and fs to damage, MAYBE an occasional harm.

Flamestrike is the strongest one so of course it's being used a lot. Lightning is a quick attack with medium damage, so it's used a lot too, but that doesn't mean the other ones suck. Even tho this PvP does have a few "most used spells" doesn't mean that it's bad, now does it?

I did try the pvp at the very beginning of the merge. I had a player who played on IN and XUO teach me the basics plus I read the pvp guide so I do have a decent understanding to how it works. It doesn't take an expert in something to know if it needs fixing though. *puts his foot through the tv* hmm im not an electronics expert... but I still know its broke. Anyway I will not try it again because it bores me and I find it to be imbalanced.

And here's another situation: *buys a computer*. HEY, its broken, my internet isn't working! <- now what's the most likely case, is it broken or has this person not learned how to get it working yet? (by reading manuals etc etc)

I do not agree with that. I can try something once or twice and know it could be better. That isn't to say I am going to fix it.

It's up to each and everyone of us to have their own taste. But you could also think that "hm, these people seem to love this PvP, I guess there must be something fun below all that spam? perhaps I should try it for a while". But yeah, there will always be people like that, trying it once and be like "oh, they spam, and I died from a flamestrike, this pvp sucks, all they do is flamestrikes". Does that mean that it sucks, or that he thinks so cause he saw it for 5 seconds and didn't like his first impression?

I know lots of IN players who gave it a shot for a month or two, some even longer, and then left. Mainly due to the fact that for a year everytime a suggestion was made they would get WE ARE NOT CHANGING IT! So yeah, they left.

Yeah, because we merged with Imagine Nation and were promised to get to keep our PvP, and then every IN-player wanted their PvP instead, and didn't even give this PvP a chance. The few that did are still here, the rest is gone, hopefully they'll come around in the future and give it another shot, and most likely see why we don't think that this PvP sucks (after trying it for more than 5 minutes).

I guess I should have spammed a bunch of wops not just one to prove my point. Limiting the use of not only spam in general but how often you can use each one would help. This way players would have to choose when they make a combination of wops. By doing so it would more likely confuse an opponent.

The whole point of the spam is that people won't have to see almost any real spell, but instead have to guess what it is and predict what will happen, that's what's fun. If we limit it so that ppl can do it once every 20 seconds or whatever it will just ruin the whole purpose of the spam, because you won't be able to use it when you have to in most cases..

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