[imported_Shade]

There is no limited tactics, you can do anything you like, you can probably even try to kill somebody with harm if that's what you want, it's just that people tend to narrow it down to the strongest and fastest spells for PvP, and that's not because the pvp style is limited, but because people think these are the most effective for their PvP style.

So almost everybody who pvps daily is wrong? Don't take that the wrong way but for me, the more I pvp the more I find the best tactics for me. Here it seems that everyone hasn't found their own but instead they found the way you must pvp.

That was probably me, but after reading my last post you must've seen that what I really ment was that it takes hours when really good players fights each other, not when random people do. However even then it can slow things down a bit, but still it's not because of the that the PvP is too "soft/easy going" or whatever, but simply because you can see when somebody does an attack if you don't spam, so the spam hides it and makes the PvP more advanced and more fun.

I don't feel it should take hours for the top pvpers to finish a duel. That to me sounds like an element of attack is missing.

More than two spells worthwhile? I don't want to argue with you in front of the players but sometimes you tend to say stuff that you rly don't know anything about, and when you do you make people believe it is that way since you're a staffmember. So once again, more than two spells worthwhile? Seriously, there's LOTS of spells worthwhile, I can make a list for you later.

Aye, I may not be an expert on this but I am no fool either. What I should have said was damage spells, rather then attack spells. With this system it seems illogical to use anything but light and fs to damage, MAYBE an occasional harm.

The people who bothers to PvP are usually good players, or players trying to be as good as the good players, so they use whatever attacks the good people uses, but it's STILL not just two spells worthwhile like you said, there's several spells, it may not look that way when you OBSERVE duels the way you do, but if you'd give the pvp a shot (which you already said you wouldn't) you'd see that.

I did try the pvp at the very beginning of the merge. I had a player who played on IN and XUO teach me the basics plus I read the pvp guide so I do have a decent understanding to how it works. It doesn't take an expert in something to know if it needs fixing though. *puts his foot through the tv* hmm im not an electronics expert... but I still know its broke. Anyway I will not try it again because it bores me and I find it to be imbalanced.

We try to improve it every day by for example limiting the spam, but we are not changing it in DRASTIC ways unless there is really good reasons for it, and so far there hasn't been any good suggestions that would improve the PvP, and since you haven't tried the PvP more than a couple of duels you rly can't know how to improve it, because in order to be able to improve something you need to have tried it first, and no I do not mean once or twice.

I do not agree with that. I can try something once or twice and know it could be better. That isn't to say I am going to fix it.

There is always a desire to make it better, you've just got to come with good suggestions. We listen to every suggestion we get, but most things is from former IN players who wants it to be more like IN and has not given it the chance to actually see why the suggestions would not work combined with our current PvP, and there for we can't add these changes. So once again, try it out a bit more, and then give suggestions, and yes I already heard that you won't try it, so then don't try to change things either.

I know lots of IN players who gave it a shot for a month or two, some even longer, and then left. Mainly due to the fact that for a year everytime a suggestion was made they would get WE ARE NOT CHANGING IT! So yeah, they left.

I agree, a spam of "Kal Vas Flam, In Vas Mani, Kal Vas Flam" is a lot better than one saying Kal Vas Flam all the time, but since when did I defend 50 flamestrike-spells in a row? I'm just saying that spam is good, not that it's good when you spam 24/7 and the same spam all the time.

For example by spaming flamestrike all the time you're letting everybody know when you cast other spells, because those will be shown, and the only spell hidden will be the flamestrike, so that spam actually sucks. One showing several different spells in it is a lot better in my opinion.

I guess I should have spammed a bunch of wops not just one to prove my point. Limiting the use of not only spam in general but how often you can use each one would help. This way players would have to choose when they make a combination of wops. By doing so it would more likely confuse an opponent.

P.S: Curse and Bless was bugged at sphere and was there for not used there. The XUO PvP is from Sphere and there for those spells have not been balanced into the XUO PvP. I do not think that we can balance them into the PvP without messing up the current PvP either tho. If bless would give you more strength/health then everybody would just use it on themselves 24/7 and all the current balanced spells would be too weak since everybody would have more than 100 hp. And for course - well if you know a good way to balance it into the PvP then go ahead and suggest something, but if not then let it stay the way it is.

Fine they didn't work correctly on sphere... this isnt sphere though, now we have the chance to make them work like they should have back then. Seriously though, think about the fact that there are 64 spells, exclude summons and fields and that drops down to about 50 (dont feel like counting) now tell me, how many do use in pvp? Now tell me how many could be used in pvp...