[imported_Hate]

I am pretty sure I said I would hit someone with a plate if they told me to try something I didn't like... Do not assume I didn't try it, assume I hated it. I do not enjoy limited tactics.

There is no limited tactics, you can do anything you like, you can probably even try to kill somebody with harm if that's what you want, it's just that people tend to narrow it down to the strongest and fastest spells for PvP, and that's not because the pvp style is limited, but because people think these are the most effective for their PvP style.

Didn't one of the XUO side staff members say it was added because duels would take hours? I don't feel like searching for that comment but I am sure I read something along those lines.

That was probably me, but after reading my last post you must've seen that what I really ment was that it takes hours when really good players fights each other, not when random people do. However even then it can slow things down a bit, but still it's not because of the that the PvP is too "soft/easy going" or whatever, but simply because you can see when somebody does an attack if you don't spam, so the spam hides it and makes the PvP more advanced and more fun.

Anyway, I will agree that the scrolls are a great feature and its nice to list all the things that are unique about xuo pvp but what about all the things taken away... You have narrowed down variation so much that spam is needed I suppose but maybe if you made more then two attack spells worthwhile it would be nice (regarding armored players). What about stat potions, curses and blesses? All I see is hallys or bards... I wonder why.

More than two spells worthwhile? I don't want to argue with you in front of the players but sometimes you tend to say stuff that you rly don't know anything about, and when you do you make people believe it is that way since you're a staffmember. So once again, more than two spells worthwhile? Seriously, there's LOTS of spells worthwhile, I can make a list for you later.

This pvp is limited and I still stick to my statement. I mean unless you want to say every pvper here doesn't know what they are doing, because I see the same thing day in and out with little to no variation. This style may have been effective when it was created but patterns are formed and people tend to repeat what works for them.

The people who bothers to PvP are usually good players, or players trying to be as good as the good players, so they use whatever attacks the good people uses, but it's STILL not just two spells worthwhile like you said, there's several spells, it may not look that way when you OBSERVE duels the way you do, but if you'd give the pvp a shot (which you already said you wouldn't) you'd see that.

What bothers me is the fact that nobody who is accustom to this pvp will admit that it could be better.

We try to improve it every day by for example limiting the spam, but we are not changing it in DRASTIC ways unless there is really good reasons for it, and so far there hasn't been any good suggestions that would improve the PvP, and since you haven't tried the PvP more than a couple of duels you rly can't know how to improve it, because in order to be able to improve something you need to have tried it first, and no I do not mean once or twice.

I see potential here, great potential and yet no desire to make it better.

There is always a desire to make it better, you've just got to come with good suggestions. We listen to every suggestion we get, but most things is from former IN players who wants it to be more like IN and has not given it the chance to actually see why the suggestions would not work combined with our current PvP, and there for we can't add these changes. So once again, try it out a bit more, and then give suggestions, and yes I already heard that you won't try it, so then don't try to change things either.

Sorry for the rant I am just tired of hearing that I should try it more and I will like it. I will not. It isn't for me, it isn't for a lot of players.

P.S. Seeing only:
Kal Vas Flam
In Vas Mani
Port Ort Grav

is much more deceiving then:

Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam Kal Vas Flam

I agree, a spam of "Kal Vas Flam, In Vas Mani, Kal Vas Flam" is a lot better than one saying Kal Vas Flam all the time, but since when did I defend 50 flamestrike-spells in a row? I'm just saying that spam is good, not that it's good when you spam 24/7 and the same spam all the time.

For example by spaming flamestrike all the time you're letting everybody know when you cast other spells, because those will be shown, and the only spell hidden will be the flamestrike, so that spam actually sucks. One showing several different spells in it is a lot better in my opinion.

Regards,
Hate

P.S: Curse and Bless was bugged at sphere and was there for not used there. The XUO PvP is from Sphere and there for those spells have not been balanced into the XUO PvP. I do not think that we can balance them into the PvP without messing up the current PvP either tho. If bless would give you more strength/health then everybody would just use it on themselves 24/7 and all the current balanced spells would be too weak since everybody would have more than 100 hp. And for course - well if you know a good way to balance it into the PvP then go ahead and suggest something, but if not then let it stay the way it is.