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Fs PVP
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Shade Wrote:Or maybe some players just see it as a lame fix for an imbalanced pvp. If it was too easy to survive before spam then maybe the pvp should have been tweaked a bit to fix that. It isn't hard or scary to figure out spam... it annoys people.

We added the spam to give the PvP a surprise-moment to the pretty predictable basic sphere-pvp, but before we did that we balanced it in several ways which I will describe more detailed below. Other shards instead made it weapon-based, by making the duel depend completely upon what weapon and armor you have pretty much, and whoever had the better gear won the duel. We do not want it to be like that at IN-X, we want it to be about how good you are at mastering a very complex and advanced PvP-style, and not about who finds the best weapon, because that to us isn't really what PvP should be all about.

These are a few of the features that we've changed from the basic sphere PvP to make IN-X have a complex, advanced, but yet hard and at the same time fun PvP-style:
  • We added scrolls for every spell, which are faster than the original spell, and harder to survive against.

  • We also added so that you loose some HP when you use some scrolls, because they take less mana to cast. We figured since they take less mana you have to risk it a bit instead, so there for you loose health when you use it. For example XUO flamestrike scrolls and lightning scrolls takes life when you double-click them, but less mana than the "normal" flamestrike scrolls that only takes mana (but more mana).

  • We also made rly powerful scrolls like greater heal scrolls and magic reflection scrolls (which has very low cast time) take A LOT of mana so that it won't be abused, but instead just used wisely, because if you use it too many times in a row then you'll end up with 0 mana and be melee'd.

  • We also Removed total manas and instead just kept normal mana-potions, because the total manas gave you too much mana and there for made it too easy to survive.

These are all features that we've added to make the PvP harder and more complex than the original Sphere PvP, but none of these things has transformed the original Sphere PvP into something "too easy to survive against", quite the oposite actually. Like I said in the beginning of this post, the spam is used above all this as an extra feature to add some surprise to the PvP, since it's pretty boring if you know exactly when people cast things.

I've seen some people say "spam is useless, of course the spamming guy will cast a flamestrike if he hits me below 46 hp, and of course he'll heal if he is being hit for 20 damage", but that is so wrong and shows just how little these people know about our PvP style.

For example: If somebody hits you below 46 hp then he's most likely just going to spam and NOT flamestrike for real, to make you drink a potion, because he does NOT want to waste his mana on attacks that will fail. The spam will here be used as a "fake-attack" to make people believe that he is flamestriking, when he really isn't, so that the guy hitting u below 46 hp will flamestrike you right away is so wrong.

Secondly, if your target is hit for 20 damage then there's several surprize-things he can do that you have to keep in mind, he will NOT just be casting a greater heal like these people said. Why? Because if he'd cast a greater heal everytime he'd get hit for 20 damage then he'd be out of mana in notime. Most people tend to PRETEND with a fake spam that they're healing, while they in fact are using a bandage. They may sometimes use small minor heals as well, or a reflection scroll if they think that you may be flamestriking behind your spam.

Either way, I can go on and on forever about this, but we did NOT add the spam because it was too easy to survive without it, because it seriously is NOT easy for people who aren't really good at this PvP to survive at it, but instead we added it to give the good players a bit of a bigger challenge, to make it even harder for THEM, but also to make the PvP-style more complex, by adding this surprise-moment.

Bottomline, the spam is here for a good reason, not just for annoyance or because the PvP was too easy to survive against before it was added. We will NOT be removed it ever because it is a huge part of the XUO legacy and it has a very important purpose. I'd also like to point out the fact that when we merged with Imagine Nation we agree'd on that the XUO PvP-style would not be changed, so that won't happen, however we will try to BALANCE it by setting delays on spam etc, to make everybody whose new to the shard have an easier time to adept to it.

Shade, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you one of these players who comes from the IN side of the merge and hasn't really PvPed a lot here yet? So please, go PvP a bit, see what this PvP is like, and after you've done that feel free to come back here and tell me if you still think that spam is like your broccoli, but either way it's not going to change in major ways, the only thing we'll do to change it is balance it by setting delays etc, but the rest is up to you and everyone else to get used to.

I may sound a lil harsh but that's because everybody whose posting saying how annoying and pointless the spam is has not given it a fair chance really, and I think that is sad because the spam really has a good purpose here, and I'm pretty sure that you'll all see it if you'd give it a chance. We will however (like I said above) do all we can to balance it as much as possible, to remove the annoyance, but without removing the spam.

Regards,
Hate


Messages In This Thread
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-28-2008, 09:50 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-28-2008, 09:57 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-28-2008, 10:01 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Gang-Bang - 08-28-2008, 10:01 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-28-2008, 10:07 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Nemesis - 08-28-2008, 10:07 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-28-2008, 10:08 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-28-2008, 10:09 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-28-2008, 10:13 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-28-2008, 10:20 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Yankovic - 08-28-2008, 11:37 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-28-2008, 11:53 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_ScareCrow - 08-28-2008, 11:57 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-29-2008, 12:05 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-29-2008, 12:07 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-29-2008, 12:25 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Odium - 08-29-2008, 12:48 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Sindern - 08-29-2008, 01:37 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Proximus - 08-29-2008, 08:16 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-29-2008, 08:23 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Lederoil - 08-29-2008, 11:17 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Proximus - 08-29-2008, 03:13 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-29-2008, 05:59 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Shade - 08-29-2008, 06:06 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Odium - 08-29-2008, 10:22 PM
Fs PVP - by smoke - 08-29-2008, 10:43 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Rabbi Samild - 08-30-2008, 12:39 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-30-2008, 02:40 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-30-2008, 05:59 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Gang-Bang - 08-30-2008, 06:06 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-30-2008, 06:20 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-30-2008, 06:36 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Theo - 08-30-2008, 07:50 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-30-2008, 12:51 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Malik - 08-30-2008, 12:53 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Shade - 08-30-2008, 03:38 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Lederoil - 08-30-2008, 03:41 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-30-2008, 03:54 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-30-2008, 04:02 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-30-2008, 04:08 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-30-2008, 04:13 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-30-2008, 07:19 PM
Fs PVP - by smoke - 08-30-2008, 07:39 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-30-2008, 07:45 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Shade - 08-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-30-2008, 08:10 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Kilala - 08-30-2008, 08:36 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-30-2008, 08:43 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-30-2008, 09:05 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Gang-Bang - 08-30-2008, 09:13 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_PedroDiLara - 08-30-2008, 09:18 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-30-2008, 09:21 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Gang-Bang - 08-30-2008, 09:22 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-30-2008, 09:29 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Gang-Bang - 08-30-2008, 09:33 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-30-2008, 09:40 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Shade - 08-30-2008, 10:28 PM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-31-2008, 12:29 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-31-2008, 12:36 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Kilala - 08-31-2008, 01:41 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Gang-Bang - 08-31-2008, 01:46 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Odium - 08-31-2008, 01:48 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Hate - 08-31-2008, 01:58 AM
Fs PVP - by smoke - 08-31-2008, 06:06 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Theo - 08-31-2008, 06:35 AM
Fs PVP - by smoke - 08-31-2008, 06:58 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-31-2008, 07:00 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Ryuuku - 08-31-2008, 07:06 AM
Fs PVP - by imported_Odium - 08-31-2008, 10:59 AM

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