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Why are XUO and IN players at odds?
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Canaris Wrote:Hate,

You said the transfer was fair and XUO players mostly have not complained. It is somewhat true since they have complained less, but the fact is they don't have anything to complain about really since most of them don't care about the "world" (spawns, deco, loot, crafts). They care about PvP (don't get me wrong I pretty much think the same way, I don't care so much about the "world" either).

You mentioned that you do not think they care about loot. I would say that they care very much about loot. Yes it may be because it affects PvP, but if it affects PvP then it affects them and then they have a reason to complain.
  • At XUO it was way easier to get money, here you have to hunt 100 times as much to get as much cash.
  • At XUO they had their Xtreme monsters that they knew dropped good weapons, here they have find all the "good drop monsters" all over again, because they have no idea where they are.
  • They probably don't give a shit about the deco, I agree with you on that.
  • The spawns do matter quite a lot to them though, because even if they do PvP a lot they do also hunt a lot, in order to get money, weapons and armor, to PvP with. The money may mainly be used to either buy pots or scrolls, or to spend it on supplies to GM Alchemy and Scribe, but either way it matters a lot to them as well..

So I would say that pretty much all you mentioned above that you do not think they care about is actually things they care about a lot if you ask me, except for perhaps the deco, I doubt they care about that at all.

Canaris Wrote:Actually, they do complain about that stuff too but not so much. What they do complain about is the things that affect PvP in any way. This is UO and with the exception of RP pretty much everything revolves around PvP. Even if you don't agree with that you have to agree it's a huge part of the game and therefore huge part of the shard. What as big as a whole PvP system was ever implemented from IN? Do you see what I'm getting at in here? No way former XUO people have anything to be complaining about at least compared to former IN players.

I don't think it's wrong of you to want a good PvP style. I can understand why you are complaining about that if you find it to be "bad", I am mearly stating that the XUO part of the merge has had an easier time accepting "your world" than you have had accepting our PvP, and I do not at all believe that they "love it all" and that is because they have had an easier time accepting it, but simply since they were willing to give it a chance and try and adjust to it, hey even some former XUO players are even trying to roleplay at IN-X, and that is a sight I did not think I would get to see in a long time ;p

I do think that loosing lots of skills, having to macro lots again, and having to learn a whole new world, can compare "fairly good" towards a new PvP style, even tho the PvP may ultimately be what either keeps them here or makes them leave. Just like it may make you leave even tho you like the rest. I do hope we can get along and find out something that works for all of us, I just hope that you will realize how fun this PvP is by just playing it for some time, because it will be real hard to change it around (at least in big ways) since it is the XUO legacy and it is one of the few things we have brought to this merge. Since it is a very balanced and fun PvP style (once you learn it) I think we'll all get along and love it together one day, I just hope that day will come soon :]

Canaris Wrote:As soon as PvP part of the shard is somewhat working most devs are gone (not an accusation, just an unfortunate fact) and suddenly it seems this IN part of the merge is on hold and, as far as I can see, it will be for a long time. :neutral:

We are trying to find new developers to help us out. That plus the fact that Taran is working hardcore to fix bugs, so that he will soon be able to focus on the rest of the IN parts of the merge, makes me believe that we have a bright future for both former IN and former XUO players ahead of us. Maka will probably be helping out again shortly once his computer is back and working, so that will help us even more. Don't worry, we'll fix the IN part up, and you will realize how fun this PvP is, and the world of IN-X will be a great place to be at! That is at least what I am hoping for you to feel in a near future!

Regards,
Hate


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Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Bost - 12-14-2007, 10:55 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Mephisto - 12-14-2007, 11:03 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Gwynn - 12-14-2007, 11:28 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Hate - 12-14-2007, 11:45 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Jimmar - 12-14-2007, 11:48 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Lerri - 12-15-2007, 12:04 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Bost - 12-15-2007, 12:07 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Jimmar - 12-15-2007, 12:11 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Bost - 12-15-2007, 12:17 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Kamos - 12-15-2007, 12:21 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by Galens - 12-15-2007, 12:26 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Jimmar - 12-15-2007, 12:28 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Lerri - 12-15-2007, 12:33 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Jimmar - 12-15-2007, 12:36 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by Galens - 12-15-2007, 12:36 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Bost - 12-15-2007, 12:38 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Bost - 12-15-2007, 12:39 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Jimmar - 12-15-2007, 12:51 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Hate - 12-15-2007, 01:15 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_n0x* - 12-15-2007, 01:25 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Cole - 12-15-2007, 02:56 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by MoustaxeOfVanquishin - 12-15-2007, 04:52 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Tabion - 12-15-2007, 05:30 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Rachet - 12-15-2007, 06:57 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Kreole Ragehead - 12-15-2007, 08:22 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Jimmar - 12-15-2007, 08:32 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Dotjr - 12-15-2007, 08:52 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Tabion - 12-15-2007, 09:07 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Dotjr - 12-15-2007, 09:34 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Jimmar - 12-15-2007, 10:01 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Sorick - 12-15-2007, 10:22 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Hate - 12-15-2007, 10:32 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Hate - 12-15-2007, 10:32 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Smurtle - 12-15-2007, 11:07 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_n0x* - 12-15-2007, 11:30 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Dotjr - 12-15-2007, 11:39 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_n0x* - 12-15-2007, 11:51 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Hate - 12-15-2007, 11:54 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by Sakura - 12-15-2007, 11:59 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by smoke - 12-16-2007, 12:09 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Slaquer - 12-16-2007, 12:23 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Bost - 12-16-2007, 12:28 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Hate - 12-16-2007, 12:51 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by MoustaxeOfVanquishin - 12-16-2007, 01:13 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by MoustaxeOfVanquishin - 12-16-2007, 01:29 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_SombraX - 12-16-2007, 01:47 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by MoustaxeOfVanquishin - 12-16-2007, 02:03 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Kamos - 12-16-2007, 02:25 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Hate - 12-16-2007, 04:05 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Kamos - 12-16-2007, 04:41 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by MoustaxeOfVanquishin - 12-16-2007, 04:48 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Kamos - 12-16-2007, 04:59 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Hate - 12-16-2007, 05:55 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Jimmar - 12-16-2007, 06:13 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Gang-Bang - 12-16-2007, 07:29 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Kamos - 12-16-2007, 08:37 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_SombraX - 12-16-2007, 08:27 PM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_chaO!! - 12-17-2007, 02:34 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Dramatic - 12-17-2007, 02:46 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Hate - 12-17-2007, 03:55 AM
Why are XUO and IN players at odds? - by imported_Rackull - 12-17-2007, 04:29 AM

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