11-09-2007, 08:50 PM
I am definitely against pits runes at dungeons.
The only consistent positive effect that I'm hearing from adding pits runes is convenience. If you had never played on a server with them this wouldn't be an issue. Once you get used to them I can understand that not having them can be frustrating. Jakko's argument that we want to make the game challenging not frustrating is understandable. But the only reason that not having pits runes seems frustrating is because you are used to them. The idea of teleporters everywhere to pits irks me a lot I'm sorry to say.
People constantly complain that it takes 30 minutes to walk to a town from a dungeon. If you actually did it, it would take you 3 minutes. I actually walked alongside someone to a town to show them how quick it actually is. You're complaining that it is a frustration and an annoyance, but that is what death is. When you die you should be required to make some effort to be alive again. Adding pits runes everywhere ruins the atmosphere of the world. Instead of traveling to different places, in a large world, you're simply entering gates and recalling on runes.
The world is a vast place and I hate that only small areas ever get any traffic. I'm not saying we should all be spread out and there shouldn't be any hot spots, but I really want people to explore the world and learn it and see it. Someone mentioned that this is frustrating for a new player but exploration is part of the game. If you don't know how to get to and from destard and its closest town, how and why are you hunting there?
Personally I'd prefer players didn't only know what the entrance to dungeons looked like but actually knew how to get there. I'm not saying all players who are used to pits runes don't know the world, I'm just saying it highly discourages it.
It is really only a matter of convenience, but being that convenient lowers the value of death, there is little penalty for dying in that case. After saying all that, I think maka's idea is a fair compromise. However I think pits runes at dungeons should have a delay larger than the decay rate of a corpse. It is possible to run to a town and return and save your corpse if you die, but if you choose the easy and lazy way and step on the pits rune you should be giving up your corpse to do so.
If pits runes are added I believe it would be fair to add guild banks as well.
The only consistent positive effect that I'm hearing from adding pits runes is convenience. If you had never played on a server with them this wouldn't be an issue. Once you get used to them I can understand that not having them can be frustrating. Jakko's argument that we want to make the game challenging not frustrating is understandable. But the only reason that not having pits runes seems frustrating is because you are used to them. The idea of teleporters everywhere to pits irks me a lot I'm sorry to say.
People constantly complain that it takes 30 minutes to walk to a town from a dungeon. If you actually did it, it would take you 3 minutes. I actually walked alongside someone to a town to show them how quick it actually is. You're complaining that it is a frustration and an annoyance, but that is what death is. When you die you should be required to make some effort to be alive again. Adding pits runes everywhere ruins the atmosphere of the world. Instead of traveling to different places, in a large world, you're simply entering gates and recalling on runes.
The world is a vast place and I hate that only small areas ever get any traffic. I'm not saying we should all be spread out and there shouldn't be any hot spots, but I really want people to explore the world and learn it and see it. Someone mentioned that this is frustrating for a new player but exploration is part of the game. If you don't know how to get to and from destard and its closest town, how and why are you hunting there?
Personally I'd prefer players didn't only know what the entrance to dungeons looked like but actually knew how to get there. I'm not saying all players who are used to pits runes don't know the world, I'm just saying it highly discourages it.
It is really only a matter of convenience, but being that convenient lowers the value of death, there is little penalty for dying in that case. After saying all that, I think maka's idea is a fair compromise. However I think pits runes at dungeons should have a delay larger than the decay rate of a corpse. It is possible to run to a town and return and save your corpse if you die, but if you choose the easy and lazy way and step on the pits rune you should be giving up your corpse to do so.
If pits runes are added I believe it would be fair to add guild banks as well.