[imported_Silverwolf]

I think Maka's suggestion is fair. Have Pit Runes which only the dead can run on, and make it a longer delay. To be honest, as long as the delay is longer, I dont even care if you can do it while alive.

Before I say anymore, I'm an IN'er. I think we are over-discussing this. Its fairly simple, and it really isnt that big of a deal. If we have these pit runes near dungeons, and we can use them, dead or alive...what difference does it make? I honestly don't understand. How will it negatively impact the shard? I think that is the first question we should all be asking ourselves everytime we discuss something ; [B]How wil lthis negatively impact the shard?. "Carebear" is not a valid answer.

If we are alive, having a pit rune is no different than recalling back to town. If you are dead, it will signifigantly reduce frustration by having to run back and res.

If people are so strongly against having pit runes around dungeons, then yeah I say find a medium, but sometimes I think we argue for the sake of the arguement, and to win it, rather than have a constructive conversation. Lets stop being 2 sides of the argument (IN vs XUO) and just be a damn community already[/B].

Wow that's amazing.

Will everyone who's disagreeing with the whole pit's issue re-read this mans post and tell us exactly why you're still unhappy with the idea? It's as simple as he put it. Pit's rune doesnt tweak any monsters, the dungeon is JUST as hard because nothings done to the dungeon, the pit's rune is used when you would like to leave the dungeon, instead of using recall spell or when you're dead it can be used as a way back home.

I don't understand how this can interfeer with the "fun" and make the dungeon any "easier".

There's certain dungeons, like lets say shame,hygloth, etc... where you need to pull leavers,torches, etc... just to open a door. Tell me, will a resurrection gate outside that dungeon help you get your body back? I mean once your dead in a place like this your dead for good man. You cant just go res outside and expect to get back to level 5 without a reag bag/horse rofl. It just doesnt add up, the system isnt right the way it's setup. In those types of dungeons who says that everyone has a rune to the place you're hunting? Every location has leavers/torches to enter them or hidden barrels, etc... Having a pit's rune outside a dungeon like that would be extremely usefull and beneficial for everyone.

Honestly guys, this pits rune feature is a feature no other shard has. It's unique and eliminates headaches. There's many people who can on XUO and complimented the system, new players from different shards. People like change, when they see something other shards dont have they tend to like the server any more. Servers which are all identical dont have reason for players to stay, this can be on of those factors which can make someone change his mind about INX instantly.

There is no harm in this, the dungeon is just as hard, you need to get your regrements (not like someones handing you anything), you need to run back where you died and face the same monsters u did before.

As someone mentioned about dying to pkers. Well if you're really a pker and someone owned you, I guarantee you'll go back there over and over, whether its with a group of friends or on your own. No "PK'er" likes to die and well they always want revenge, always. This pits rune will cause more activity, because the person who killed you WANTS you to come back so he can "own" you again. What good is it if you kill someone in a dungeon and you know he'll be back in thirty minutes because he has to hike his ass back to a town just to get stocked.

Eventually, after dying a lot, people will just log out because they have no convienient way of getting back and actually playing the game.

It's not rocket science people, it's not "carebare" either, it's simply removing frustration and making it less of a headache when your dead.

Further more, IN'ers have never used this system, and XUO players have. I dont think that someone can judge a system they haven't used before. The best way to resolve this is to put the pit's rune outside the dungeons for lets say 2 weeks, see how poeple like the idea of it, and two weeks from that time we will meet back at the forums and see what everyone has to say. You need to try it out and see it firsthand and than give criticism, you can criticize a system properly if you haven't used it before versus someone who has...