07-27-2007, 07:24 AM
rachet you cant quote my whole past and simply say it's irrelevant and expect to get on with life. give me a bloody reason.
im not some spoiled little brat who needs a new quest to do every day. diablo 2 is such an intricate game you could play it for years, making a new character every month and you still won't make the same character twice.
i've made maybe a dozen different characters on diablo 2, all of which were great characters until patch 1.1 came out. patch 1.1 changed everything, the smallest mistake in making your character and it would be ruined. it also made the final difficulty 10x harder, meaning just about every character not made properly was useless.
i had 3 types of amazons; one to do massive damage with a single shot at a time, another to do low to medium damage with 20 or so shots at once, and one that throws javelins, enriched with magical damage, at monsters.
i've made 3 different types of sorceresses; 1 all around balanced with ice, fire, lightning, one fire sorc, one lit sorc. the fire and lit sorcs were so strong because of something called synergies (training a certain skill makes another skill stronger)
i've made a barbarian that monsters can't kill. i've made a barbarian that is a support class character who improves everyone around him so they can kill everything in a matter of seconds.
i've made a paladin who will hit you 10 times in under 2 seconds, i've made a paladin who charges at you and deals a massive hit, then stuns and kills you. i've made another paladin that is specifically designed to fight the undead by hitting them with a holy bolt dealing thousands of damage and then creating an after affect hitting other monsters.
i've made assassins that set up traps all around you and you get killed by them all at once. you can't run, you can't stand still, you just die. i've made assassins that almost appear out of nowhere, hit you with a massive amount of damage, run away, and reappear a second later hitting you with another devastating hit.
diablo 2 is such an intricate and incredible game because there are literally endless possibilities in regards of the characters you can make. not one of my characters was the perfect one because each character had an almost perfect counter.
now consider the thousands of different items in diablo 2 that put one character over the other. my sorc could have the best gear in the game (for a sorc) and still get killed. yes, that's right, different characters have different gear. you can't give a barbarian a wand because he'd snap it in half and beat you with his hands. you can't give a sorceress a giant sword or armor because you'd waste all your stats leveling her strength when you should of put it into mana. sorceresses dont need big huge armor because they can deal massive amounts of damage and attack a monster from far away. barbarians need massive armor and super strong swords because they are right in the enemy's face. you have to level your characters and cater to their strengths.
some games, like diablo 2, don't need that because of all the possibilities. if you don't see them, read my above post again.
i agree, and i'm saying i would never pay the one where im dependent on other people to give me something to do.
in fact it is genious because that saves blizzard millions of dollars that would be spent in having servers. all the game data is stored on everyone's pc, so why should i pay to have another pc host my shit.
MMORPG=massive multiplayer online role playing game... that's exactly what diablo 2 is. you create a character and play it the way you want, aside from the required quests that exist, which also exist to different extents in other games. at one point or another, if you want to get that special item, or special title, you have to go and do something specific. it is a massive multiplayer online game because there are litteraly thousands of people that play. while you won't encounter them all at once on a game like diablo, they are there none the less, and you will see them sooner or later. you still create the friends and enemies you would on a game like WOW where you say there are hundreds of people online.
thanks for your brilliant observation, but i have indeed researched it. well no i didn't read up on diablo 2, i played the game, and that's as good as it gets. in fact i'd say you haven't researched diablo 2 and are just shooting it down at the little you do know about it and overlook everything else.
i keep saying this in loads of threads... "if you don't know someone, don't talk about them." you clearly have no idea how much i know about diablo 2 and how many possibilities there are in it. maybe you should give it a try before shooting it down.
and btw, the "an extra ferrari" comment was just a joke but then you talked about people needing excentricities and that's retarted. there's a small list of what you really need and 2 fancy ass sports cars isn't on it.
everytime you pay your 7-10 bucks you see something completely different. imagine having to pay 25$ for your dvd when you buy it, and then paying 1$ evertime you watch it, or every month. or when you want to watch a bonus feature you have to pay 1$ because it's something beyond the actual movie and an extra. if you don't pay your 1$ everytime you watch the movie, then the movie disintegrates lol. it's a peposterous idea because you payed your money now you should be able to do as you want.
i agree with you lindenwood, it all depends on what you see in a game or movie.
ok that's long enough, bedtime
rachet Wrote:Its simple.. if you play a game that isn't pay by month, then your going to get a quality game that doesnt get updated except for general troubleshooting and tweaking.
im not some spoiled little brat who needs a new quest to do every day. diablo 2 is such an intricate game you could play it for years, making a new character every month and you still won't make the same character twice.
i've made maybe a dozen different characters on diablo 2, all of which were great characters until patch 1.1 came out. patch 1.1 changed everything, the smallest mistake in making your character and it would be ruined. it also made the final difficulty 10x harder, meaning just about every character not made properly was useless.
i had 3 types of amazons; one to do massive damage with a single shot at a time, another to do low to medium damage with 20 or so shots at once, and one that throws javelins, enriched with magical damage, at monsters.
i've made 3 different types of sorceresses; 1 all around balanced with ice, fire, lightning, one fire sorc, one lit sorc. the fire and lit sorcs were so strong because of something called synergies (training a certain skill makes another skill stronger)
i've made a barbarian that monsters can't kill. i've made a barbarian that is a support class character who improves everyone around him so they can kill everything in a matter of seconds.
i've made a paladin who will hit you 10 times in under 2 seconds, i've made a paladin who charges at you and deals a massive hit, then stuns and kills you. i've made another paladin that is specifically designed to fight the undead by hitting them with a holy bolt dealing thousands of damage and then creating an after affect hitting other monsters.
i've made assassins that set up traps all around you and you get killed by them all at once. you can't run, you can't stand still, you just die. i've made assassins that almost appear out of nowhere, hit you with a massive amount of damage, run away, and reappear a second later hitting you with another devastating hit.
diablo 2 is such an intricate and incredible game because there are literally endless possibilities in regards of the characters you can make. not one of my characters was the perfect one because each character had an almost perfect counter.
now consider the thousands of different items in diablo 2 that put one character over the other. my sorc could have the best gear in the game (for a sorc) and still get killed. yes, that's right, different characters have different gear. you can't give a barbarian a wand because he'd snap it in half and beat you with his hands. you can't give a sorceress a giant sword or armor because you'd waste all your stats leveling her strength when you should of put it into mana. sorceresses dont need big huge armor because they can deal massive amounts of damage and attack a monster from far away. barbarians need massive armor and super strong swords because they are right in the enemy's face. you have to level your characters and cater to their strengths.
rachet Wrote:But theirs nothing wrong with charging monthly, especially when the game has constantly new things added to it, new areas, enemies, storyline, items, technical support etc etc..
some games, like diablo 2, don't need that because of all the possibilities. if you don't see them, read my above post again.
rachet Wrote:Their 2 different games completely.
i agree, and i'm saying i would never pay the one where im dependent on other people to give me something to do.
rachet Wrote:Oh and i forgot to mention. Games like Diablo and diablo 2 have worlds hosted on Client computers not servers.. that doesnt make it "Genius" lol.. it makes it limited.. Diablo 2 generates random maps .. Woohoo.. thats not really an intricate game.. Diablo 2 is nothing compared to an MMORPG.. i wouldnt even call it that.. id simply call it an Online game lol. Even if u have 100 ppl on a Diablo 2 server.. so what? You cant do anything but hack and slash in that game and beat the same places over and over..
in fact it is genious because that saves blizzard millions of dollars that would be spent in having servers. all the game data is stored on everyone's pc, so why should i pay to have another pc host my shit.
MMORPG=massive multiplayer online role playing game... that's exactly what diablo 2 is. you create a character and play it the way you want, aside from the required quests that exist, which also exist to different extents in other games. at one point or another, if you want to get that special item, or special title, you have to go and do something specific. it is a massive multiplayer online game because there are litteraly thousands of people that play. while you won't encounter them all at once on a game like diablo, they are there none the less, and you will see them sooner or later. you still create the friends and enemies you would on a game like WOW where you say there are hundreds of people online.
rachet Wrote:No offense, but your just talking off the top of your head.. you haven't research or even looked into any of it. If you played WoW for a couple of months, I don't think you would feel the same. But actually a lot of gamers are incredibly loyal to game types for some stupid reason.. I personally try as many games as i can and keep an open mind to the reasoning behind their creation.
thanks for your brilliant observation, but i have indeed researched it. well no i didn't read up on diablo 2, i played the game, and that's as good as it gets. in fact i'd say you haven't researched diablo 2 and are just shooting it down at the little you do know about it and overlook everything else.
i keep saying this in loads of threads... "if you don't know someone, don't talk about them." you clearly have no idea how much i know about diablo 2 and how many possibilities there are in it. maybe you should give it a try before shooting it down.
and btw, the "an extra ferrari" comment was just a joke but then you talked about people needing excentricities and that's retarted. there's a small list of what you really need and 2 fancy ass sports cars isn't on it.
lindenwood Wrote:Think about it like movies. You can buy DVDs, omer watch old stuff on TV cheap or free. Or, you could go pay 7-10 buck every few nights to go watch a brand new movie.
everytime you pay your 7-10 bucks you see something completely different. imagine having to pay 25$ for your dvd when you buy it, and then paying 1$ evertime you watch it, or every month. or when you want to watch a bonus feature you have to pay 1$ because it's something beyond the actual movie and an extra. if you don't pay your 1$ everytime you watch the movie, then the movie disintegrates lol. it's a peposterous idea because you payed your money now you should be able to do as you want.
i agree with you lindenwood, it all depends on what you see in a game or movie.
ok that's long enough, bedtime
Thanks,
GM Pande
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