[imported_Rabbi Samild]

I haven't logged in much in the past month or so because I have been busy with projects for school and now I am in exams with another 2 weeks of exams to go.

After my exams I will probably be logging in more often, unless Starcraft 2 or Diablo 3 come out

Starcraft 2... Diablo 3... P90X... living on the beach... we all have things that save us from playing UO 24 hours a day.

Look at us, we're still ranked #8 in the top UO shards... how is that possible since 84% of the shard quit?

Oh that's right... people ALL OVER have stopped playing UO

[imported_Brandon]

Even though skill gain isn't THAT hard, it is hard enough. I didn't feel like spending 120+ days in game time macroing and building up skills. To me it's just not worth it anymore. I don't have time to mine hundreds of thousands of pieces of ore just to GM blacksmithy. I spent my time on vanilla IN raising skills. In fact, I started over three times on vanilla IN. I've started over on several shards in my time. I want to play UO and have fun and quite frankly, macroing isn't fun at all.

However, the UO community as whole is dying. It's even apparent on a lot of the larger shards.

The only reason I visit this forum is for the nostalgic feeling I get when I read about UO. I also visit another shard forum. A part of me wants to play UO and a part of me doesn't and to satisfy that urge I visit UO forums.

Most likely I'll never play UO again. I installed and uninstalled UO at least five times over the lifetime of IN:X. I probably had UO installed for a week at a time. Each time I went in thinking that I was just going to have fun and hunt a little at a time and interact with what's left of the player base. But when I saw how much work I had left on building up my character I just got frustrated and left.

If I do decide to play UO again I am going to play on the largest private server. I'm sure you all know what shard I'm typing about. I can have a 7x tamer in less than a weeks time. To me it's worth it just to interact with 800+ other players. I have so much fun playing as a thief and stealing at the moongates. Stealing is fun there because there are actually players to steal from.

People keep saying skill gain has nothing to do with the decline in population. To be honest, I believe it has does. I know staffers keep saying that skill gain is never going to change. Guess what, have fun staffing a shard with an average of 15 players. That number will probably be lower with time. :hrugs::

[Eighty Swords]

Rabbi I live in Canada, we don't have good beaches lol. What's P90X?



Brandon to be fair, how many skills do you expect to have GMed in less then 120 hours? Do you expect to have all the crafts and a full pvp/pvm character ready?

Personally I'm a little in favor of the mentality you have to work for what you get so I don't think GMing a skill should be as simple as snapping your fingers but it shouldn't be harder then running a mile in under 4 minutes.

Also for what reason do you want to GM the skills? Just to say you have them GMed or so you can actually profit off them? As it is now, there isn't much profit to any crafting skill so there's no real point to train them right now. You are better off hunting then spending so many hours to train crafting skills for minimal profits.

Furthermore, yes macroing is no fun, but it's not like you're forced to sit there every second you spend macroing. Leave the PC on over night if you can, or watch a movie while you macro. I understand it's no fun to install a game sunday, macro monday to friday (5 days where you don't really touch it), then only really play saturday. Who wants to wait 5 days to play a game?

[imported_Brandon]

Brandon to be fair, how many skills do you expect to have GMed in less then 120 hours? Do you expect to have all the crafts and a full pvp/pvm character ready?

My bad! I meant 120+ days. I don't know why I typed hours. I edited my post.

I don't know if this is how long it would take to GM all skills. I just base it off of what I've seen on the server status page. Most of the players with all GM skills or close to it have been on for over 120 days.

[imported_LudaKrishna]

straight up i can make about a good 50k in 30 mins of hunting. You don't need to gm every skill i mean it's just convient...but you can easily buy supplies from other people. The new monster loots are pretty good I gotta say and i barley hunt lol.

[imported_Menace]

thanks for the input its nice to see what everyone has to say.. and no fighting is a bonus haha.. anyways hopefully more people will see this and comment on why they left and what can be improved. I see what people are saying about uo being and old game and dying but you all know deep down inside there is nothing better than logging onto uo and seeing 12 people running around ganking in occlo with 2 or more big groups.... or seeing the duels stones packed with people to duel ranging in all levels of skill. I miss britt bridge wars when you get the blues against the reds.... good times lol. It's just fun but we need people to play otherwise we may aswell all change our guild names to AFK

[Eighty Swords]

My bad! I meant 120+ days. I don't know why I typed hours. I edited my post.

I don't know if this is how long it would take to GM all skills. I just base it off of what I've seen on the server status page. Most of the players with all GM skills or close to it have been on for over 120 days.

Seriously? You want to be GM everything in 4 months? No wonder you think skillgain is too hard. Expecting to be 100% totally independent in 4 months is asking for a lot. I mean think about it, in 4 months you wouldn't have to interact with ANY players to make anything.

By the way, I got 73 days gametime and 4569/4900 skills. That's not even 2 months :p. How many of my GMed skills do I actually use? Not many... I'm just training them so I can feel cool about GMing every skill.

You also have to take into consideration that some people might not macro every single minute they're ingame. Maybe someone has 100 days gametime with 4000 skills but of those 100 days 50 were spent hunting or pvping.

[imported_MadMan]

Im not playing because I wanted to gank like the old times.

But as we all know the chances in that happening are closer to impossible.

[imported_Rabbi Samild]

P90X is an extreme workout program made by BeachBody Fitness. It's awesome. If you're in reasonable shape and can move around, it's a wicked program. As long as you aren't obese you can get it and within 13 weeks be a changed person.

I know there are few "beaches" in Canada... none I'd ever want to go to for lounging around enjoying the warm breeze () but I live 9 minutes from the beach... so it's helping me disconnect from UO.

My point was... there's no reason to waste your time playing UO these days. I'm saying this because I dumped an ass-ton of time into this place and only got mild in-the-moment satisfaction from it. There's no residual gain from playing UO, just like there's no benefit an hour after you've smoked a pound of weed... I'm hoping that the people quitting are doing something constructive with their free time that will promote their well-being and improve their quality of life.

[imported_Rabbi Samild]

Oh... and you can get to 3500 meaningful skill points in a VERY short period of time. I'm not going to look for the breakdown right now, but it's something like 2-3 weeks of AFKing at night and for pretty cheap. You don't need to have any crafting skills at all to survive here as there are PLENTY of GM crafters who sell stuff for near-cost.

[Eighty Swords]

P90X is an extreme workout program made by BeachBody Fitness. It's awesome. If you're in reasonable shape and can move around, it's a wicked program. As long as you aren't obese you can get it and within 13 weeks be a changed person.

Ah ok, I'll stick with a real live gym and sports

I know there are few "beaches" in Canada... none I'd ever want to go to for lounging around enjoying the warm breeze () but I live 9 minutes from the beach... so it's helping me disconnect from UO.

Sure we have beaches (land mainly composed of sand along water) but they're not exactly warm or even nice lol.

[imported_Hilbert]

I'm hoping that the people quitting are doing something constructive with their free time that will promote their well-being and improve their quality of life.

Lol, you dont have any quality of life if you live there where you say so . all people are loan slaves there. no health care. onley if you ghot money you can do anything.