[imported_Camaron]

My english its not very good but ill try to explain myself.

About .wop i think we all agree that it must be changed but not deleted.

I saw some comments that said naked ppl can won easy or something like that, well i want to say just try to kill someone that have good armour and weap without equip. He will put his weapon in your ass all the time hiting u as hell and it will so easy to him to kill u because u will be healing yourself all the time. So u will have low mana and he will be full.

The rest of comments about changing the pvp comes from ppl who maybe fighted one or two times? u think u can be a good pvper and know how it works with two fights?

And something i want to add, diabolical u said that most of the ppl agree with change the pvp. Ok there r 250 players. Now say to me how many of them read the forums or post here saying they want the pvp changed. like 5%?

[imported_dvlsmnd]

I really don't think there is anything "wrong" with this pvp but something like ar based spells can add to it.

+88
it will make the game more interesting

[imported_chaO!!]

I dont know how many ppl wanna change the PvP, but on this issue just the "XUO guys" should have vote since is OUR PvP the one used here. I agree with the delay in the .wop and some minor fixes but nothing who changes the old PVP.

[imported_Tabion]

I dont know how many ppl wanna change the PvP, but on this issue just the "XUO guys" should have vote since is OUR PvP the one used here. I agree with the delay in the .wop and some minor fixes but nothing who changes the old PVP.

Thats like saying only IN players can vote on who can get rp items... we are a whole community, a third of the shard shouldn't decide things for all.

I keep hearing this shit about how it can't and won't change... it makes me think everyone is stuck up their own asses or scared to adapt to something new. Yeah its a good pvp system but there is certainly room for improvement. I don't want the whole pvp system to change, I don't even care anymore... but to be so closed to new ideas is just ignorant. Reminds me of a parent trying to feed their kid a new food and the kid refusing to try it even though it could be the best thing they tasted. But like I said, I don't even care anymore.

Everyone keep arguing back and forth, both sides continue to have a closed mind and act childish... we are all keeping many players from coming here if they read the forums to get a feel for the community.

[imported_wold]

on tabions note:

FOR ALL U NEWBIES WHO READ THIS POST... INX RUL3Z!!!11 DONT GET DISCOURAG3D MY PADIWANS!

[imported_chaO!!]

PvP its still not running here, i mean i dont see anyone fighting in occlo i dotn see tourneys, and everytime i kill someone ppl its not even using scrolls. How the hell can ppl complain about a PvP they are not even trying, its like if i go to the roleplay forum and start throwing random ideas. When IN ppl have tried this PvP for more than a wekk, then maybe and just MAYBE i will care about his opinion, since then its random whining.

[imported_Lerri]

PvP its still not running here, i mean i dont see anyone fighting in occlo i dotn see tourneys, and everytime i kill someone ppl its not even using scrolls. How the hell can ppl complain about a PvP they are not even trying, its like if i go to the roleplay forum and start throwing random ideas. When IN ppl have tried this PvP for more than a wekk, then maybe and just MAYBE i will care about his opinion, since then its random whining.

your looking in the wrong place, iv been pvping every day for two weeks now. SH is where its at.

[imported_chaO!!]

Ok thx for the info now i know where to get free items

[imported_Lindenwood]

Ok thx for the info now i know where to get free items

Woo, 5 pots / scrolls and a bag of regs!

:badgrin::lol:

[imported_Hate]

[SIZE="4"]Ok here comes my explanation (as an PvP Coordinatior) regarding why healing and magery is NOT useless AT ALL. It is most likely two of the most IMPORTANT skills needed in order to PvP properly at IN-X.[/SIZE]

First of all without magery you can't use the "greater heal spell", which means that you'll have to use greater heal scrolls OR bandages to heal. Since the greater heal scroll takes a HUGE amount of mana to cast you won't be able to PvP with those, you'd only be able to cast four of them and then you'll be completely out of mana. (perhaps five if you use an mana potion as well and if you are at full mana while begging to cast those, but then you won't even be able to use the greater heal potion when you're getting dumped again, or being hit by an melee weapon).

And if we listen to what you suggest then you won't be able to use bandages instead of the greater heal spell either, since then you won't have that skill. And if you do then you'll only be using it to ress people, apparantly, and that's just dumb. Any hit for less than 20 hp on yourself is almost always an "bandage heal hit", and if you know how to fight good you'll be able to use it even more often than that, bandages is an great way of saving mana to be able to make powerful attacks.

Healing with bandages is actually the MOST important skill in order to save mana. If you know how to heal with bandages plus the greater heal spell then you'll most likely stay high on mana and be able to heal yourself AND do offensive attacks when needed.

So once again, if you DO NOT have magery nor healing you won't be able to stay high on mana. You would instead be using greater heal scrolls to heal, and that in term will cause you to drop to 0 mana in no time. Four hard hits and you'll be out of mana. What do you do when you are out of mana? Nothing - you're dead, you can't even heal with bandages because you DO NOT have that skill macroed, because apparantly you think that it's useless.

Compare 30 mana drained (greater heal scroll) from a normal greater heal spell (11 mana drained), and you'll see what I mean. Compare healing every time with a 30 mana scroll instead of using an bandage when you drop to like 80 hp, and you'll see what I mean when I say HEALING AND MAGERY IS SO VERY IMPORTANT when you PvP at our shard. With the healing spell you'll be able to heal at least 9 times before you run out of mana. With the greater heal scroll on the other hand you'll be able to heal FOUR times. Sure the greater heal scroll is a little bit faster but hey - that does not matter if you have good timing. The greater heal scrolls is a way to "survive near-death-experiences", not an "normal way to heal", if you do that you'll end up dieing in no-time.

I understand if the players who has not been playing the XUO pvp before may think that it's weird. They may actually even use the greater heal scrolls instead of normal greater heal in tourneys - thinking that that's how we play it, and if they do they'll end up dieing in no-time.

I will start my PvP school soon, and that school will teach you all how to use our PvP system properly as long as you listen good during the "class", and practice hard. So stay tuned for that, and once again - magery and healing IS VERY IMPORTANT to PvP properly, any good pvper who knows our PvP system would agree with me on that.

Regards,
Hate

[imported_Lindenwood]

I think they were saying that the skills were not very useful to train up to GM (or, even past what it takes to use FS scrolls), not that they were completely useless. The only shards Ive played on where the healing skill was useless in PvP was when there was a huge delay on them.

[imported_Hate]

I think they were saying that the skills were not very useful to train up to GM (or, even past what it takes to use FS scrolls), not that they were completely useless. The only shards Ive played on where the healing skill was useless in PvP was when there was a huge delay on them.

Well the first guy was refering to that it was useless to "GM" them (get them to 100%), but other people seemed to think that they weren't even useful at all in PvP, and they certainly are. Some people were saying that you never even have time to use bandages, and that healing is only useful in order to ress people, and that's far from the truth, it's just a matter of knowing when to use the bandages. This and much more is what I am going to teach you/them at the PvP school later, the basics of the IN-X PvP.

And when it comes to the magery, sure since the spells you actually use in PvP that isn't scrolls are pretty much greater heal, reflect, harm, magic arrow, and a couple of other low-level spells means that you don't really "have to" GM magery to use it. But at the same time there's always a bigger risk of fizzling if you aren't GM in it, so I'd say it's very much worth it, because ONE fizzle at the wrong time will most likely cause you to die, and that is seriously the worst possible way of dieing except for crashing maybe.

Anyways those two skills are very very important, and that is what I wanted to make you all aware of. :]

I haven't read the discussion regarding the fake-spam yet, just the first few posts, but I'll get back in here and reply to that later tonight or tomorrow most likely. Take care until then!

Regards,
Hate