[Hiraku]

why not adding some small areas (maybe squares a little bigger than those in casino) around the cities for example, where you can duel auto supplied?

just for practice, and would involve ppl in pvp cause at least they have a training chance for 1v1, or also only cause its funny...

the dm 1v1 is too quick i think and few times a day (and thats ok) but no way to skill a bit
maybe even making it more accessible like for example you start a fight by typing "i wish to duel" and targeting the opponent and he/she can chose to accept, then they are teleported in the area and auto supplied

a plus would be adding even a hall of fame with duelers points, with small points gain for these kind of duels and higher when winning a dm 1v1 tourney

if we have to deal with two slightly different ways of pvp in the shard, that is good to me, the world pvp and the arena 1v1, then why the arena 1v1 have to be only when its tourney?

[sm0ke]

The whole reason as to why armor and weapons are so useless and cheap here and why this shard has so much inactivity is due to automated and supplied events, people just log on then off once the events are done. Supplied tours need to stop in general and people need to start hunting and making their own resources to have fun and learn pvp, I remember back in the day we use to self supply and have robes where a GM would dye it a different color depending if it was a 1v1 rep/2v2 rep or reg. The only type of events that were ALWAYS auto-supplied was CTF and CW I wish these days would come back.

Also I believe having two types of PvP would confuse most people who don't use the forums and upset them, along with new players it's just to inconsistant and would do more harm than good imo.

[Fulmanar]

I have to agree, auto-supply tourneys need to stop, we have people selling exceptional aqua armor for 9k a set, the economy is getting really slanted here.

[Hiraku]

i understand that, then maybe letting decide before the duel starts, if you chose the supplied mode you won't get any points, a kind of not rewarding at all practice
if instead self supplied (a kind of the real one) you get points in the hall of fame and you can even chose the bet (the system already on)

i guess this would mean the most of players playing the real one as soon as they get just a bit of skills, and would even mean more ppl pvping (with their armors then) = more armors sold
sometimes in real world sometimes on arena, but always self supplied and it mean more movement in general, more ppl that approach pvp and then go try it in open world pvp
also, with the changes tomorrow the armor will anyway get more use, so, not bad at all reassuming in my opinion....

Also I believe having two types of PvP would confuse most people who don't use the forums and upset them, along with new players it's just to inconsistant and would do more harm than good imo.

so you mean to abolish the 1v1 at all? leaving only the real world pvp?

and why this shard has so much inactivity is due to automated and supplied events

among other i'm talking about a player activated method, so player must interact to start the duel, and they can do when they want, can't see how this let them login and logoff

[sm0ke]

i understand that, then maybe letting decide before the duel starts, if you chose the supplied mode you won't get any points, a kind of not rewarding at all practice
if instead self supplied (a kind of the real one) you get points in the hall of fame and you can even chose the bet (the system already on)

i guess this would mean the most of players playing the real one as soon as they get just a bit of skills, and would even mean more ppl pvping (with their armors then) = more armors sold
sometimes in real world sometimes on arena, but always self supplied and it mean more movement in general, more ppl that approach pvp and then go try it in open world pvp
also, with the changes tomorrow the armor will anyway get more use, so, not bad at all reassuming in my opinion....


so you mean to abolish the 1v1 at all? leaving only the real world pvp?


among other i'm talking about a player activated method, so player must interact to start the duel, and they can do when they want, can't see how this let them login and logoff

Well to be honest, I don't even support the PvP changes I honestly believe they won't work out and they will be changed around within the next few days of being implanted because it being such a big change to adapt too, but yes I would have 1v1 in arenas the same type of PvP as world PvP. I would actually base world PvP off 1v1 in the arena because no matter what you can't change someones mind if they want to 1v1 in the world or not they can always get away regardless of whatever changes or what that person thinks is fair. Imo this wasn't a needed change and I would have settled for a slight damage and healing of some spells but it's nice that loki try's and make everyone happy by adding these new additions like the new mana system/poisoning and the new use of spells.

[Gang]

1vs1 in the world or out is totally same. Smoke, you out of anyone should know that damn. Only difference is that you have possibility to call your friends, recall, LoS-fizzle the attacks and if you happen to para with weapon even blow up someone, plus ofc greater damage thanks to same pots, but that doesn't change the fact that someone who kills u in arena is going to kill you outside as well, or like 95% chance to.

Also, I'm against having supplied arena as well. Infact, if it wouldn't require scripting I'd request it long time ago. I'm not sure how hard it would be to script, maybe Echo/Taran can say at least. Be sure we (most of us) understand if u chose to not make it, would be nice if u'd name the reason though, if it's being too complicated/you simply dont have time or you just don't agree with that idea;p

I was thinking of making 1vs1 tours only twice a day, at 21:00 server time and at 3-5am server time (for EST). And it shouldn't be supplied, people still should use their stuff if they want to not be REALLY handicapped. Prize just would have to be adapted, but well then smithers and hunters would have reason to make armors because anyone will know - if u want to win, you need it. Let the ones that don't have anything participate with autosupplied ~40 armor gear, weapons of force and scrolls/pots. But just so they feel how much advantage good PvP stuff prooves. I'm sure they will realize that. Thats being said it's still very much easy to kill people who is worse than you in pvp but is wearing better gear, so it's not unstoppable advantage. But yes, if you are same or close to, your opponent is most likely doomed.
Though I still say we have supplied tour at sunday, I mean when everyone has to participate in same items, and that tour would be rewarded the most. I know it's supplied, but it's once a week and a lot of ppl will get on to participate it. Especially at sundays evening when most of people have work/uni next day and most likely at home...

[sm0ke]

1vs1 in the world or out is totally same. Smoke, you out of anyone should know that damn. Only difference is that you have possibility to call your friends, recall, LoS-fizzle the attacks and if you happen to para with weapon even blow up someone, plus ofc greater damage thanks to same pots, but that doesn't change the fact that someone who kills u in arena is going to kill you outside as well, or like 95% chance to.

Also, I'm against having supplied arena as well. Infact, if it wouldn't require scripting I'd request it long time ago. I'm not sure how hard it would be to script, maybe Echo/Taran can say at least. Be sure we (most of us) understand if u chose to not make it, would be nice if u'd name the reason though, if it's being too complicated/you simply dont have time or you just don't agree with that idea;p

I was thinking of making 1vs1 tours only twice a day, at 21:00 server time and at 3-5am server time (for EST). And it shouldn't be supplied, people still should use their stuff if they want to not be REALLY handicapped. Prize just would have to be adapted, but well then smithers and hunters would have reason to make armors because anyone will know - if u want to win, you need it. Let the ones that don't have anything participate with autosupplied ~40 armor gear, weapons of force and scrolls/pots. But just so they feel how much advantage good PvP stuff prooves. I'm sure they will realize that. Thats being said it's still very much easy to kill people who is worse than you in pvp but is wearing better gear, so it's not unstoppable advantage. But yes, if you are same or close to, your opponent is most likely doomed.
Though I still say we have supplied tour at sunday, I mean when everyone has to participate in same items, and that tour would be rewarded the most. I know it's supplied, but it's once a week and a lot of ppl will get on to participate it. Especially at sundays evening when most of people have work/uni next day and most likely at home...

You just explained what I meant but you basically agreed with me that 1v1 and world pvp is different due to LoS and other obstacles you may run into when venturing outside :p What 1v1 is what you see is what you get you're in a box with no way out and no obstacles besides the person that's trying to kill you =].

Still doesn't change the fact though that I don't agree with the system that's being implanted ofc :p