[Habibi Jones]

There are no order guilds! I suggest that there be a 'reward' of some sort for being an upstanding chaos-killing order-ranger, so that there is some reason to be order instead of chaos.

[Venos]

TRU?

But yes order will always be undermanned because they have a lot of rules to follow compared to chaos.
If I end up pvp'ing again it will be as order though. I like being one of good guys and pk'ing is only for retards anyway.

[Galdor]

Order's can pking hall of IN times.. Order's loyal to Lord British, Chaos's loyal to Lord Blackthorn... It's not good and evil war... at last IN1 Lord Blackthorn won the war and chaos took Britania...

[Eru]

I think there were plans to make killing someone of the other faction give you a reward token or point that could be spent on faction rewards, but Shade was working on that. :<

[soMa]

Really I think the chaos shield looks cooler I prefer the round shape. I think you could pk if you have an order shield I mean if your not RP'ing I don't see why it matters. So I go back to its cuz the chaos shield is cooler.

Also really the main problem here is the fact that you can attack either side no matter what you wear. So there is no reason for there to be any order guilds because it has no meaning what so ever....

of course unless you are rp'ing or something.

[Galdor]

In old IN (1996-98) we had some order / chaos rp. Coldrake had been Lord British and i think Fahking (Note: Fahking builded up Vampire guild, Hail to you Fahking...) had been Lord Blackthorn and we were fight each other out of Birit. it was lke 50 to 50 or more and you couldnt see who was down who was up. i played IN with 56 kbps modem in those days... ahahhahah... Think what i had lag... Most good times we had seen and i misssed them all.. by the way i replay that PKing is not allow to be chaos... Order is not meaning GOOD and chaos is not meaning EVIL... Its just UO's main story...

[Andrew]

Galdor: Did IN exist before UO came out?

[Venos]

Really I think the chaos shield looks cooler I prefer the round shape. I think you could pk if you have an order shield I mean if your not RP'ing I don't see why it matters. So I go back to its cuz the chaos shield is cooler.

Also really the main problem here is the fact that you can attack either side no matter what you wear. So there is no reason for there to be any order guilds because it has no meaning what so ever....

of course unless you are rp'ing or something.

Why bother playing on IN if you feel that way? A pvp server would be like that and without the hassle of macroing skills.

*wishes there would be enforced roleplay right now*

Edit:

Re-read my post and want to add a bit more.

I am not against pvp in any way at all. It's the core that drives UO for a server like IN. I love pvp. I just feel that for a server to be viable beyond those who will ONLY do pvp there needs to be a reason for it all. People should not be forced to roleplay but there should be some basic guidelines so that rp is possible for those that want it. Order being the "good guys" and chaos being "bad guys" is the core of it for most players i think. On a side note guidelines for names would also help a lot in getting immersed in the world.

I guess want I'm trying to say is that for IN to live there needs to be many reasons beyond pvp to log in and play.
PvM seems good from what I've been around and seen(although a few spawns are very dense and fast respawning due to music skills being VERY good).
Crafting is great with plenty of choices in what skills to have and customs to make.
Treasure hunting, bosses, events etc etc.

I just love IN and UO and want us to succeed and be around for a long time to come.

[soMa]

Why bother playing on IN if you feel that way? A pvp server would be like that and without the hassle of macroing skills.

*wishes there would be enforced roleplay right now*

Umm I merely pointed out that there is no point in being a certain faction unless RPing because you could attack either side regardless of faction there for most people would pick what they thought looked cooler ? so i don't know what you were trying to say.

anyways, about your enforcement of Role Playing. Your right so what I want you to do is give new players things and help them with all there questions. because as a deamon I will no longer talk to, help and in anyway not attack another human char regardless of being new or old regardless of who you are ill kill you.
As most RP guilds seem to be Chaos I can only assume that they would roughly have the same rules. To Role play is to think and act like you are that person in a real world so talk of skills and helping people is sorta out of the question in my mind of role playing with an exception here or there. (and what/who your RP char is as a person meaning if you good you can still help ect)

*To your edit part*
There are sooooooo Many things to do on the shard, the only players who purely log in to pvp are the QQ and then leave when nothing happends.There are lots and lots of things to go tame and find the spawns, tons of different mobs to fight, puzzles through out the world there are dungeons you have to finish to get at certain rides, there are crafter mazes/puzzles, the games in the casino, the gambling, there is the nickel stone and silver stone to save up for other than just saving Gold. The special quests like pyros which takes a large group to complete. You can save money to buy a static or make a static even buy a little land patch and custom make your own house. Also things like treasure maps or Mib's There is so much to do you couldn't do it all alone.
So i am little confused as to what you are trying to say ?


*added
you can grow plants
Skills like -
Glassblowing
Taxidermy
Masonry
ect

[Venos]

Well i was trying to counter the "there is no reason to be order" argument. Guess i ran off on a tangent instead though :p
And in a way you are right that the only reason to be order is roleplay but it's not like you have to do it to be order. Back on IN1 order vs chaos was the driving force for pvp and the more hardcore pvp'ers simply choose a chaos guild which was not in the aligned group(daemon, vampire, goblin had a loose alliance) so they could fight anyone they wanted. Order guilds were generally less roleplay'ish with the exception of RVG. TRU, PoD and BoJ were all in for the pvp without going red.

Anyway im rambling and am not even sure what im trying to say anymore haha

[Andrew]

IN has been around for a long time Sadly, on a number of servers thou :/