[sm0ke]

If you're saying what I think you're saying, you're worried about people coming to the casino to jump out at people who are coming in or waiting around outside.

1) Don't stand around outside advertising your presence.
2) There's a 3 second timer to get out OR into the casino. So, if you're entering, the other person would have to get on the exit pad before you stepped on the entry pad. Well before.

This, not to mention if you're hanging around outside of the casino out of the protection of the town guards and you see people in the casino you're just asking to die, there pretty much provoking you to come out at that point so in the end whose fault is it really?

[Fulmanar]

I feel that this idea is very neccesary and would be a FANTASTIC addition to this ever-growing shard. I do not understand your examples as you contradict yourself

1)This is my point though, we already have what you're describing, we have runebooks going everywhere if need be, people can already travel to essentially every dungeon/town for the cost of a recall, do we truly need any more help with this?

It is ultimately the choice of a red player to go red and incur the negatives associated with that, should we not make it so that a red player has to go through a few hoops, it's literally the the point to being red, otherwise just remove murderer status altogether.

And even then i'm all for removing those runebooks.

2)I am not crying at all, it's simply the truth, there is nothing biased about what I am doing, I voted no because truthfully I feel that this addition is unnecessary and will give very little return for the work that is put into it.

3)I don't understand where this is even coming from, most people think that this idea is bad, the votes have already been cast, the majority have already spoken, I am taking your ideas with a grain of salt, it's not a good ideai n my opinion it's just unnecessary.

Clearly the playerbase feels there are more important things to worry about.

[sm0ke]

Not to mention I forgot to add, blues are very much favored more than reds on this shard, If this were implanted maybe there would be some bought statics in ocllo and can have a certain type of vendors in unprotected territory rather than south east from brit. It would also attract more players to use these towns and interact with more players in the world.

I just find it quite hilarious that everyone is against this travel assistance when we have an npc who sells bulk regs in the casino where you can't even be killed with a bank, and when you're overweight it automatically banks them.. If we have all these rune books to towns and this idea is such a bad idea why do we have merchant buy assistance? There's so many things that can be argued as to why this isn't a bad idea or why we have certain things in the shard rather than something else or more simpler.

I'm sorry to say but portals/pads > simpler than rune libraries. Not to mention it wouldn't favor the Blue players over the Red players either. Being red doesn't mean you have to banish him from and alienate them all together.

Clearly the playerbase feels there are more important things to worry about.

Like what Fulm? This doesn't help the shard? You say you're not being biased but then again that's exactly what you're doing. This shard is nearly perfect due to it was up for 3-4 years being worked on by maka taran and the IN-X staff before being put up here, so I'll ask again what's so important that needs fixing? At this point it should just be suggestions being thrown away to help better the shard like this one.

[Nasir]

First of all: Blues should be favored. Reds are supposed to be at a major disadvantage and social pariahs. If you want the game to be easy for you while still PvPing, stick to order/chaos fighting and not PKing.

There are certainly more important things when there's already a very functional travel system called runes. I don't think it has anything to do with "blues" being favored over "reds." All of my characters have always been red and I've never had trouble getting around. The only thing that will drive more players to Occlo is players actually being in Occlo. The only reason chaos people are rushing to buy statics in Serpents Hold is because that's historically where IN has housed it's chaos players. Occlo didn't even exist on IN1 because it was on the Felucca map, so it's just not in our nature to go there.

The cool thing about UO is how social it is. If people decide to hang out in Occlo, more people will go there. It's as simple as that. So go hang out more in Occlo so people see you there on the status page. When people are macro'd up, some will certainly go there to fight you.

There's really no benefit for NPC provided fast travel to anyone but a young player that can't afford to make a runebook or buy a horse to run around. We all have runes. We all have recall. Just use it.

(for the record, I'm full-on against supply stones)

[stonychavez]

/braveheart


Occlo is MY Island!


/end_braveheart

[sm0ke]

First of all: Blues should be favored. Reds are supposed to be at a major disadvantage and social pariahs. If you want the game to be easy for you while still PvPing, stick to order/chaos fighting and not PKing.

There are certainly more important things when there's already a very functional travel system called runes. I don't think it has anything to do with "blues" being favored over "reds." All of my characters have always been red and I've never had trouble getting around. The only thing that will drive more players to Occlo is players actually being in Occlo. The only reason chaos people are rushing to buy statics in Serpents Hold is because that's historically where IN has housed it's chaos players. Occlo didn't even exist on IN1 because it was on the Felucca map, so it's just not in our nature to go there.

The cool thing about UO is how social it is. If people decide to hang out in Occlo, more people will go there. It's as simple as that. So go hang out more in Occlo so people see you there on the status page. When people are macro'd up, some will certainly go there to fight you.

There's really no benefit for NPC provided fast travel to anyone but a young player that can't afford to make a runebook or buy a horse to run around. We all have runes. We all have recall. Just use it.

(for the record, I'm full-on against supply stones)

I don't see how you can say that about Reds vs Blues considering they do take a risk just being out of protection of guards for 100% of the time. I'm talking favoring them as in they have more access to parts of the game then blue players would because all the good merchants are in brit those 4 little static homes south east of the bank. Any how this is leading off topic :p

All I'm saying is it wouldn't hurt to try it out the votes are pretty even it's like 55-50 or 60-40, sure it's not needed but it would make things a lot easier clear up items in the world imo because portals would take less space/items than rune book libraries. It's also just more visual and easier to use than asking or not knowing that there is a rune library to begin with. (for new players that is) Even with that being said the red player rune library is in a pretty terrible spot you can't get to it unless you have a rune to a red town to begin with, My suggestion would to be add them somewhere everyone can get to and see it if these pad/portal things don't work out.

Hey look we agree on something that the bulk reg NPC should be changed :p

[Nasir]

You make an "ok" point with the player vendors in brit, however I feel it's up to the player to decide if they want to limit their marketable audience by only selling to blue characters.

I was considering putting a vendor in SH for that exact reason. ...in fact I'm following this up with a post in the suggestion forums ;\

[Brandon]

I don't see how you can say that about Reds vs Blues considering they do take a risk just being out of protection of guards for 100% of the time. I'm talking favoring them as in they have more access to parts of the game then blue players would because all the good merchants are in brit those 4 little static homes south east of the bank. Any how this is leading off topic :p

If you want access to the player owned vendors in Britain then create a new character to buy items and then transfer to your main. If you want reds to have access to vendors then purchase a static for vendor placement. You or someone in your guild should train craft skills in order to provide easy access to goods for reds.

As someone already pointed out, as a red you're supposed to be at a disadvantage. If you play friendly then you're allowed in town.

You have access to the vendors in town just like everyone else. You just want things to be easier for yourself as a red.

All I'm saying is it wouldn't hurt to try it out the votes are pretty even it's like 55-50 or 60-40, sure it's not needed but it would make things a lot easier clear up items in the world imo because portals would take less space/items than rune book libraries. It's also just more visual and easier to use than asking or not knowing that there is a rune library to begin with. (for new players that is) Even with that being said the red player rune library is in a pretty terrible spot you can't get to it unless you have a rune to a red town to begin with, My suggestion would to be add them somewhere everyone can get to and see it if these pad/portal things don't work out.

First you were saying it's hard to travel around the world without UOAM/UOC, and now you're saying it will clean up the lands and make things prettier. What's the next argument you're going to use when your current one gets dismissed?

[sm0ke]

If you want access to the player owned vendors in Britain then create a new character to buy items and then transfer to your main. If you want reds to have access to vendors then purchase a static for vendor placement. You or someone in your guild should train craft skills in order to provide easy access to goods for reds.

As someone already pointed out, as a red you're supposed to be at a disadvantage. If you play friendly then you're allowed in town.

You have access to the vendors in town just like everyone else. You just want things to be easier for yourself as a red.





First you were saying it's hard to travel around the world without UOAM/UOC, and now you're saying it will clean up the lands and make things prettier. What's the next argument you're going to use when your current one gets dismissed?

Man I said it would help a number of things ever since I first started posting in this topic I just didn't list them if you wanna try to start arguments left and right rather than just discuss that's fine I won't be a part of it I know you don't like me or my guild being here and have already wanted and asked to see us banned numerous times, so I'm about done giving you the benefit of the doubt because at this point you're just out to get us.

As for the red thing being at a disadvantage they are as soon as they turn red, they have to stay out of town automatically. They have to protect them selves 100% of the time unless there in a house or waiting tour area so I don't understand how that isn't as a disadvantage as is? I also said that we were getting off topic so I stopped talking about it and so did nasir but like I stated you just like to cause arguments at this point so enough is enough.

Lets get back on topic, don't forget to .vote

[Brandon]

Man I said it would help a number of things ever since I first started posting in this topic I just didn't list them if you wanna try to start arguments left and right rather than just discuss that's fine I won't be a part of it I know you don't like me or my guild being here and have already wanted and asked to see us banned numerous times, so I'm about done giving you the benefit of the doubt because at this point you're just out to get us.

/rant

It's just irritating seeing you wanting things changed under the guise of wanting to help new players. I simply do not see why you can't cope with how things are now. These things you want changed benefit you and your guild greatly. It's that coupled with the fact that your friends have insulted the staffers and this shard as a whole. You were banned on IN-X twice. You have a history of griefing in-game. It's only a matter of time before you piss off someone causing them to quit. Your behavior in-game is very disheartening.

I simply can't give you the benefit of the doubt when you've shown no indication of change.

Not long ago, maybe 30 minutes, I saw you say in chat you wished they offered weapons and colored ingots that can be purchased with nickels. It's like you have an aversion to working for most things in-game.

/end rant

I'm done here. Taran & Eru have spoken.

[sm0ke]

People can change and if you don't believe that it's your own problem, I haven't said or done anything immature since I've been here and if your going to judge me on my past shard that's fine but don't knock down ideas just because I like them or support them. Sure they will benefit me and my guild, but not only me and my guild it's for the entire shard every guild every player new or not.

Me and kenedy were discussing that there weren't enough things to be purchased with nickels, someone suggested it and I agreed with them I didn't say I was going to save my nickels and purchase new things when they come out those are not my motives or my intentions. I rather have money so I can macro, once again you have me confused for someone else entirely.

[Fulmanar]

If you require vendors and such in occlo then people should put them there, that has nothing to do with the pad system, it's an altogether different issue, if there is demand people will place their player vendors there and make a killing off selling to whomever is there because they may be the only vendor and etc.

I also agree about the bulk reg vendor, it's not needed, in time memoriam people were purchasing regs the old fashioned way with runes at the bank/GH and making a run at all the mage shops every X hours or so.

I also don't see how blues are being more favored here, that's how the UO system works, you're red guards get called onto you, you have fewer places that you can call safe.

I also agree however that the recall books in brit are not a good idea and should be removed so no one gets an inherent "advantage"