[Taran]

Plus, boxing someone in so they can't escape or res is illegal (harassing) so you should page if that happens.

[Christina Thorn]

Guess I'll have to find other ways to keep you out of my mine

[Galdor]

Plus, boxing someone in so they can't escape or res is illegal (harassing) so you should page if that happens.

Opsssyyyy Chris....

[Eru]

I discourage people from attacking/harassing new players since we want them to stay around. I saw a bunch of new players mining at Mt. Kendall, then they kept getting killed/bothered by some older players, then eventually they logged off and I haven't seen them since. That's just an example, of course.

At the same time, I can't say "Don't kill the newbies." because I don't want to add limitations on what people can do. But, people seem to want to see the population on the server grow, so try to be nice to the new guys, at least until they've gotten themselves established enough to not want to jump servers.

[Rainbow Dash]

Its rather simple really.
If you want more people to join the server then dont be a ****ing bellend and help them out with some stuff or something.
Then later when they get more skills they are able to hunt better things and get better gear and so on, kill them then so you acually earn something from it instead of just getting some useless KC´s.
I miss the smart pks tbh.

[Rob]

Are there any Order Guilds? Maybe a good idea to have a mine somewhere in guards (since mining seems to be the starting point in UO) that would only give iron or something. I think we had one like that on one of the RunUO IN shards.

[Robin Hood]

Are there any Order Guilds? Maybe a good idea to have a mine somewhere in guards (since mining seems to be the starting point in UO) that would only give iron or something. I think we had one like that on one of the RunUO IN shards.

Mt. Kendall near Minoc is guarded, and there arn't any active Order around. Only a small few people I've seen Order but for some reason they cant even get established to be a force against the majority of Chaos here.

[Brandon]

WHy bother kiling the new comers to this shard? And then res killing them
all it is doing is making them go to other shards. Im not gonna say any names but you know who you are and you should be ashamed of yourself.

No, you should say some names. Those people should be held accountable for their actions.

[Craditz]

Well its one reason why when you log on or check server status theres only 28 people on and 26 of them are afk macroing ive had countless new comers come to me complaining about being killed and reskilled box griefing etc and what these morons who kill new comers and res kill them till they just say screw it and quit dont understand is these people have friends who are prob looking for a server too... word of mouth is a very powerful tool it can destroy you or make you the best shard around when one new comer comes and has a good exp. there gonna recruit there friends and there friends are gonna recruit there friends and so on but when they come on and 3 min later there getting reskilled or boxgriefed then forget about it there not gonna reccomend to anyone to come here i think res killed should be illegal and breaking the rule should be illegal. and im sick of hearing this "WELL WHERES ORDER AT" To stop the res killings thats abunch of bullshit if yall want to see this server make it. I suggest stop the res killing stop the new comer killings it makes the hole shard look like abunch of jackasses when they are good people on this shard really good people on this shard! Shadow and my self ran into a new comer "sorry shadow for the name drop" but this guy was ready to leave and go try another shard we talked to him and helped him with some gear and tips and now he has braught 2 of his friends over to play and 3 other people he new from another shard thats 5 new faces and it didn't take much just talking to them helping them out not acting like a fool..

[Mystic Edge]

Crad i don't think its all BS on the order thing imo because chaos are getting bored and instead of taking there battles to order they are just taking it out on whomever is around or on other chaos. Sure there will be pk's around anyway but with no order threat its worse for neutrals. There isn't a force to protect those new people.

Back on IN1 when i first started ,Order overwhelmed chaos (FW/DOOM, PoD, DoD, HoD, TRU, Orders Guardians, BoJ, and a few other guilds and some that stayed neutral but help order anyway like virtue). Before I created Daemon with DaBody Horacio Natok and Felix there was only Vampire and non-guided murderers ganking people, That's it. Goblin wasn't even created yet when i made Daemon and that is why Nevela came to Daemon Pass for an alliance since we were also were becoming Chaos. Back then Order we're patrolling everywhere in large groups going from Trinsic to Minoc and then to Britain since it was unguarded. And I do remember the huge amounts of order running around Brittan where Daemon and Vampire had to fall back and regroup because of the numbers. It was insane when i first started Daemon. Goblin came later by KM and later on came the other guilds like Black, Reaper, VvV, Pharaoh, a few others and then SIN which was later addition that got the chaos vs chaos wars going. IN1 had majority of order and neutrals not only helping each other but creating a RP Environment that gave everyone a strong sense of community of helping others within the city. The RP aspect was just the icing on the cake for story lovers all around. On here it's like a complete opposite, No order authority to scare off chaos and with the majority of people on chaos that have the ability to murder and even grieve the new people without consequence. There isn't a threat for them, the only ones that are threats are on chaos anyway, and that's only if they want a fight. There have been a few order in the past and trust me when there were out and about I've seen alliance chat on Choas get lit up with activity. It's unfortunate that the smallest res kill or grieving can have an effect on new players like that. It seems whenever we do get new people they seem to only stay for a short while

[Habibi Jones]

Yeah I've talked to a lot of players that have joined/left, the overwhelming majority have left because they were bored. The main complaint I've received is that there is no loot/good items therefore no economy therefore crippled PvP. I've brought 4 or 5 people to this server who left shortly after because they simply got bored with the PvP.

[Rob]

Crad i don't think its all BS on the order thing imo because chaos are getting bored and instead of taking there battles to order they are just taking it out on whomever is around or on other chaos. Sure there will be pk's around anyway but with no order threat its worse for neutrals. There isn't a force to protect those new people.

Back on IN1 when i first started ,Order overwhelmed chaos (FW/DOOM, PoD, DoD, HoD, TRU, Orders Guardians, BoJ, and a few other guilds and some that stayed neutral but help order anyway like virtue). Before I created Daemon with DaBody Horacio Natok and Felix there was only Vampire and non-guided murderers ganking people, That's it. Goblin wasn't even created yet when i made Daemon and that is why Nevela came to Daemon Pass for an alliance since we were also were becoming Chaos. Back then Order we're patrolling everywhere in large groups going from Trinsic to Minoc and then to Britain since it was unguarded. And I do remember the huge amounts of order running around Brittan where Daemon and Vampire had to fall back and regroup because of the numbers. It was insane when i first started Daemon. Goblin came later by KM and later on came the other guilds like Black, Reaper, VvV, Pharaoh, a few others and then SIN which was later addition that got the chaos vs chaos wars going. IN1 had majority of order and neutrals not only helping each other but creating a RP Environment that gave everyone a strong sense of community of helping others within the city. The RP aspect was just the icing on the cake for story lovers all around. On here it's like a complete opposite, No order authority to scare off chaos and with the majority of people on chaos that have the ability to murder and even grieve the new people without consequence. There isn't a threat for them, the only ones that are threats are on chaos anyway, and that's only if they want a fight. There have been a few order in the past and trust me when there were out and about I've seen alliance chat on Choas get lit up with activity. It's unfortunate that the smallest res kill or grieving can have an effect on new players like that. It seems whenever we do get new people they seem to only stay for a short while

It does go in streaks. Like you said in the beginning IN1 was dominated by Order so the staff created The Four Horsemen players to try to rejuvenate chaos and get PVP going, and later when Chaos was dominant the staff again created the Veritas Order Guild (Christian FTW -- fun times trying to teach Shinare to PVP) to try to make things more balanced out.

From looking at the website and status screen it seems like the only thing holding back the shard is player count. No matter how great the shard is, if you can't find anybody to PVP with except afk miners then the shard will be boring. It's a real tough problem to solve.