[imported_Rabbi Samild]

Order men killing Order men, Thats dont make sense.

Yea, that's my point and stance as well.

[imported_Lederoil]

too bad not everything is directed towards rp is it? guilds are a major part of pvp becuase you can gank people in them and delcare war etc of course you don't care what the rules are because you just want them to benifit you as do all pvm/rpers guilds are used to pk players if you can't accept that don't join one or stay neutral it's pretty simple considering you can wear all 3 shields not having to be a guild type: order chaos or neutral

You're just amazing...

I was adding a side note "Also this will work great along with rp..." and you start your sentence with "Too bad not everything is directed towards rp"? :lol::lol:

If you want to attack all the aligned guilds, then stay chaos!! Jesus christ, is it really that hard?

Sounds like Order guilds are scared of being attacked by their own kind. Greater Solidarity? You'd have more PVP action if they could attack each other idiot.

No, there won't be more PVP if they could attack each other. There's no WAY! any semi-PVPers/PVMers would start an aligned guild as it is now. Like Rabbi said, even Ministry would consider becoming aligned if order couldn't attack order.

You two are too scarred from XUO to realize things like this and don't say you aren't, because it's ridiculous obvious to us others.

Oh and the, by far, most ironically thing. Luda is always the one to call people stupid even though he's always appearing as the greatest idiot of them all.

[imported_LudaKrishna]

No because if I have friends in order guilds and they want to attack an order guy they should be able to.

the whole point of chaos and order is so u can attack those guilds whenever u want.

[imported_MadMan]

Sounds like Order guilds are scared of being attacked by their own kind. Greater Solidarity? You'd have more PVP action if they could attack each other idiot.

You wouldnt have more pvp action. it would stay the same since if theres a pvper currently in order guild and this change takes place he would 100% switch to chaos that is if he wants to attack any guild freely. plus it wont hurt him in any way either since he can still wear a order shield.

Lets see how i can put this so you understand...

Order is supposed to be the good guys. Chaos are the bad guys. Good guys dont kill each other they team up and fight the bad guys. Bad guys dont care they kill anyone they want.

[imported_LudaKrishna]

at times u can have good guys teaming up with bad guys to kill a good guy...see my point?

[imported_Rabbi Samild]

And if the good guys can trust that they won't be PKed by some traitorous (as it currently stands) order player, they can focus on generating order team unity and will be more apt to do larger pvp battles.

[imported_Lederoil]

No because if I have friends in order guilds and they want to attack an order guy they should be able to.

the whole point of chaos and order is so u can attack those guilds whenever u want.

So, if this will be changed, and they still want to be able to attack any order/chaos player they want, they'll simply have turn their guild to chaos. It's not harder than that.

[imported_Kandorin]

It's such a waste of time trying to debate something with Technique or Luda. They will NEVER understand you and they always think they are correct. You are both idiots, nuff said.

About the topic, Madman, Led and all the others (except Tech and Luda that go against the world) pretty much explained why it should be changed. Whats the input of the staff?

[imported_Lederoil]

No because if I have friends in order guilds and they want to attack an order guy they should be able to.

the whole point of chaos and order is so u can attack those guilds whenever u want.

Also, stop with this bullshit speaking for friends. If they think this is a bad suggestion, they do better by coming here themselves pointing out why it's bad.

It's really getting tedious with the same story all the time; "lmao this will ruin the pvp and i have friends in order guilds and they will quit if this will be changed and me and smoke and scare im pretty sure will also leave cuz we know eachother irl lol the whole point of order and chaos is attacking whenver u want we were promised this pvp so stop trying to change it"

[imported_LudaKrishna]

whats really ridiculous is rabbi and kandorin thinking they know something about this when their guild is neutral and they don't even pvp.

So, if this will be changed, and they still want to be able to attack any order/chaos player they want, they'll simply have turn their guild to chaos. It's not harder than that.

again THERE IS NO NEED TO CHANGE IT IF IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE SAME OUTCOME, PUT UR GUILD NETURAL, THAT'S NOT HARD AT ALL EITHER.

caps for ppl who can't read and are idiots like lederoil

[imported_Rabbi Samild]

Maybe I don't want to be neutral anymore and want to be Order. Maybe I don't want to switch so I can get killed by Order players, which makes absolutely no sense. It should be changed because it's nonsensical!

It has nothing to do with whether or not I pvp. I PLAY THE GAME AND WITNESS IT AND HAVE AN INPUT. SO I'M GIVING IT!

Caps for people that think if you aren't balls deep in and absolutely experienced with a subject that you should have zero input.

[imported_Rabbi Samild]

again THERE IS NO NEED TO CHANGE IT IF IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE SAME OUTCOME, PUT UR GUILD NETURAL, THAT'S NOT HARD AT ALL EITHER.

It might NOT have the same outcome! Maybe more ORDER PLAYERS will bond together to try to KILL CHAOS players! Maybe you'd get MORE PVP! Who knows unless you're willing to CONSIDER it! Let's just never change anything again and stagnate and die off. Sounds good.