[imported_Muto]

Arent' we playing INX?

[imported_Epistemology]

Arent' we playing INX?

Yes we are. I have just seen that comeback used so many times before, Well Xuo this and IN that, if Taran says things are open for discussion IN and XUO should never be used as leverage in that argument, hence why I made a comment about smoke's comment, but in his defense he did edit it.

[imported_Hate]

My personal opinion is that Chaos shields should not be linked to the player buying it due to a few reasons:

1. It is not a "1 time item" last time I checked, so as long as you have your 10k fame u should be able to buy plenty of them if u have the cash.

2. It's newbied, so if u're actually dumb enough to put it inside your house, without locking it down, then you deserve to loose it, and the player who looted your house deserves to be able to use it.

However I agree with the other staffmembers about that "skill rewards" should be linked, due to the fact that you can only get it once / character and you worked hard to get it.

P.S: I'd also like to point something out to some people in this thread, not mentioning any names: Seriously guys, you need to read what people say. Sometimes it feels like you didn't even read half of what was posted by Taran and other staffmembers. For example staffmembers posted that you do NOT need to have 10k fame in order to use it - just to get it - staffmembers also posted information about that karma has nothing to do with this, yet you keep mentioning it in your posts as if you never read these relies :/ It would feel so much more worth while to type things to you if you'd actually pay attention :/

Regards,
Hate

[imported_LudaKrishna]

hey i only mentioned 10K Fame/10K Karma cuz when I asked in game, tiesto, jackal told me I needed to get it.

So maybe i need to stop getting false info.

Anyways my points are exact of what hate said. If your dumb enough to get it looted, then whoever looted it should be able to use it.

[imported_Captain Morgan]

My personal opinion is that Chaos shields should not be linked to the player buying it due to a few reasons:

1. It is not a "1 time item" last time I checked, so as long as you have your 10k fame u should be able to buy plenty of them if u have the cash.

2. It's newbied, so if u're actually dumb enough to put it inside your house, without locking it down, then you deserve to loose it, and the player who looted your house deserves to be able to use it.

However I agree with the other staffmembers about that "skill rewards" should be linked, due to the fact that you can only get it once / character and you worked hard to get it.

P.S: I'd also like to point something out to some people in this thread, not mentioning any names: Seriously guys, you need to read what people say. Sometimes it feels like you didn't even read half of what was posted by Taran and other staffmembers. For example staffmembers posted that you do NOT need to have 10k fame in order to use it - just to get it - staffmembers also posted information about that karma has nothing to do with this, yet you keep mentioning it in your posts as if you never read these relies :/ It would feel so much more worth while to type things to you if you'd actually pay attention :/

Regards,
Hate

First I would like to say I NEVER agree with Luda and Tech, however in this case I agree with them. The shield should be useable to the person who looted it. As for the above comment from Mr. Hate this item should not be linked becuase it isn't a "skill reward" and the player who lost it should beable to buy another for 250k once he aquires 10k fame.

[imported_Eru]

The more I think about it, the more I start to agree with it. Since you can just get to 10K fame and buy another, the only real cost of your mistake is 200k. It's a big mistake, but I've seen people lose much more than that at once.

I don't think it should be free to swap though or people could just trade the shields around as long as they had the fame. I think that to make the swap, the new owner should have to have the 10K fame and pay a switching fee of say, 50K. They saved a lot, but the cost is enough that we won't get a ton of pages about it.

[imported_LudaKrishna]

why should I pay for looting an item that the person is dumb enough to get looted. Ppl looted items shouldn't lose money after going through all the effort in looting it.

[imported_Epistemology]

why should I pay for looting an item that the person is dumb enough to get looted. Ppl looted items shouldn't lose money after going through all the effort in looting it.

You could look at as you went through all that trouble to only pay 50k instead of 200k. And by looting other people I assume you have a taste for it. So it should be a win/win? Satisfaction of ruining someones day by looting their private awesome/super cool house and saving 150k.

:badgrin:

[imported_LudaKrishna]

Actually no, the reason for looting items is so u dont have to pay for them yourself. Its one of many perks in being a pker. as a pker u dony need money half the time except for regs/pots/scrolls. hell i havent had to even buy regs in so long cuz when we kill someone ppl have 200 of each type on them lol. Think of it u take n item from someone u use it....u dont PAY to use it, thats irl also. Anyways just trying to get my logic across

[imported_Epistemology]

Actually no, the reason for looting items is so u dont have to pay for them yourself. Its one of many perks in being a pker. as a pker u dony need money half the time except for regs/pots/scrolls. hell i havent had to even buy regs in so long cuz when we kill someone ppl have 200 of each type on them lol. Think of it u take n item from someone u use it....u dont PAY to use it, thats irl also. Anyways just trying to get my logic across

Word.

I think they were talking about just top end items that you would have to pay to have it rebound to you. But ya I get what your saying, it would be lame if you looted havoc armor and had to pay to wear it!

[imported_Eru]

I mostly suggested that to keep the shield swapping to a minimum, but honestly, I can't see the problem popping up that often and swapping shields around between players isn't very likely either.

We should just look into making the shields no-drop and unable to be placed into anything but backpacks or bank boxes.

This is all mostly because otherwise I have to do things.

[smoke]

I mostly suggested that to keep the shield swapping to a minimum, but honestly, I can't see the problem popping up that often and swapping shields around between players isn't very likely either.

We should just look into making the shields no-drop and unable to be placed into anything but backpacks or bank boxes.

This is all mostly because otherwise I have to do things.

no offense but you know how care bare that sounds if people lose their items it's their own fault