[Eighty Swords]

I decided to come back to UO about 2 months ago because I thought I'd have a say on how things went but the staff seem so lopsided in favor of RP over PVP and they seem so scared to disrupt any RP feeling that it's hard to get anything me and other pvpers are interested in actually implemented. Now that might seem a contradiction to my last post since I just said 'me and other pvper's and the truth is I don't pvp right now because I can't afford the supplies to do it so I want to train the skills myself but I just can't get them done so I have to macro all the time. Anyways thats a different story, so lets focus on getting something added for PVPers that won't completely disrupt the sacred RP feel.

I mean come on guys, me, madman, and smoke all agree on something. It has to be good!!!

[imported_MadMan]

I feel like us pvpers are getting punished all the time becuase of our talents to be able to heal when knowing to heal.. It's common knowledge. I think people being afraid of people is ridiculously stupid. The reason people don't go to occlo is because

1. they're afraid to die
2. they're afk all the time because there use to the inactive staff
3. they've taken it upon them selves to macro all skills because it's actually something to do (as have i)
4. This system would really help but all you guys have been doing is putting it off and showing regret to it.. we were forced to try without the pits for a week i think we should force this, i mean look at how terrified people are its becoming stupid.

So for all the gms that say we should be encouraged ganking and finding people in the world, well where are they? there so use to "entertainning them selfs" by macroing all of their skills and gathering items and being afraid to use them.. So provoking us to go ganking will do nothing because it's always the same people who are always up for ganking who are the same people who are in occlo today. People need to stop being afraid really..

What staff needs to do is create activity before we can "create entertainment for our selves" first. Do this by hosting tournies and other events to get people active. Yes i know you don't like the idea but hell if it gets players on the more tours the more activity there will be and THEN finally will we be able to gank and entertain our selves with all the people we have online. Right now GM's just complainning at players to go gank and calling us lazy is doing nothing at all. Something needs to be done and soon =/

They did do something about tournies recently. 2 new cns although they cant host anything yet but ctf. when they can it should feel more active but all vote for COORDS!

[smoke]

They did do something about tournies recently. 2 new cns although they cant host anything yet but ctf. when they can it should feel more active but all vote for COORDS!

Yes they did, but now ctf is messed up ghandalf said due to respawn time so it's going to be dead for a week >.< and deathmatch theres no prize for the winner anymore don't know why when you get a prize for bomberman and death by dice..

Either way we need an announcing system or coords like you said because this is just dead

Anyways i got exams this week i don't have time for this so i'll just be macroing all week laters

[imported_Lederoil]

I'd have a say on how things went but the staff seem so lopsided in favor of RP over PVP and they seem so scared to disrupt any RP feeling that it's hard to get anything me and other pvpers are interested in actually implemented.

How many suggestion hasn't been wasted because of all the PVPers who are soooo afraid of making the tiniest little changes in PVP? How hard hasn't it been to get things implenteded because of this? For example, my suggestion of different leather armor, when YOU told it would change the PVP so much and even Maka said he guaranteed it wouldn't???! Please Eighty, you've been the worst of them all, and you don't bearly know the PVP... Jesus Christ you're ****ed up! Open your god damn mind sometime... It's scary how you always see things from only one point of view...

Maybe if you ex. XUOers would agree on some changes that's affecting your playstyle for once before you start bringing up bullshit suggestion like this.

I mean come on guys, me, madman, and smoke all agree on something. It has to be good!!!

This was the most ironic thing I've read in a while...

[imported_Jackal]

I say no to coordinates, honestly to me that is just bein lazy. Being a ex pker myself foun that you should have to work towards finding someone, whether it be hiding at a hot hunting spot or hiding in a town waiting for someone. What i have notice is everyone kinda hangs out in pits and waits to see if someone goes to occlo or to brit bridge. This is completely lazy to me. Since I have staffed which isnt long I have not once seen anyone hiding at a Hunting spot waiting for someone to come. This to me is the perfect time to PK someone let them waste some mana on the mobs then attack. I do however feel that annoucing someone has left the pits to eitehr occlo or brit bridge is kinda a good idea i think it might promote ganking and might be good for the shard. All im saying if you want to find people get the hell out of the pits and go around the world might be surprised what you find. Quit being lazy thats all im saying. this is not XuO nor is it IN, its IN-X and there is some factors that will never make either side happy. You never know what you will find if you never go out and search for it.

[imported_Taran]

Coordinates are a big no.

But maybe we could try for a week to display the region a player is in on the website if he/she isn't hidden. Then you would still have to do some searching on your own if you want to find someone.

[imported_Taran]

Also, I got the idea that someone said staff was inactive. But I mean, I must have gotten the wrong idea because I see staff online everytime I login.

And someone also said that we don't want to change PvP. Well that's true, because that was the agreement when we merged. XUO kept their PvP. Despite this, we brought up some PvP changes but they were drastically shot down by former XUO players. This is why I don't want to change anything to PvP really.

We're not adding stuff for RPers, we are adding stuff for players. Quests, new logtypes, new mobiles etc. has nothing to do with RP. I'm not really sure how to please the PvPers, there's always something wrong. And since this isn't a pure PvP server I have to think about the non-PvPers as well.

[smoke]

Also, I got the idea that someone said staff was inactive. But I mean, I must have gotten the wrong idea because I see staff online everytime I login.

And someone also said that we don't want to change PvP. Well that's true, because that was the agreement when we merged. XUO kept their PvP. Despite this, we brought up some PvP changes but they were drastically shot down by former XUO players. This is why I don't want to change anything to PvP really.

We're not adding stuff for RPers, we are adding stuff for players. Quests, new logtypes, new mobiles etc. has nothing to do with RP. I'm not really sure how to please the PvPers, there's always something wrong. And since this isn't a pure PvP server I have to think about the non-PvPers as well.

Okay Taran well yes staff is on all the time, but everytime people ask for tournies and even if there hasn't been one all day the GM's usually they stop being lazy go entertain your self. Well if all the players are afk macroing due to them being on doing nothing productive to entertain players and then complain we do nothing is pretty annoying? I remember asking a GM to host something once and he said no sorry but instead all he did was teleport around in pits for 10-15 mins mins lol.. (litterly spamming .tele)

Yeah the pvp hasn't changed apart from the autocut kill script (which is really annoying >.<) and ebolt and explosing when naked. So yeah I guess you've kept your word on that which is good.

You're right it is hard to please the XUOer's and the INer's that RP and PVP but how we see it of our point of view is that it's so IN sided becuase look it all the things they have to do it quests,crafts,hunt, they can even try the pvp when there are events. We hunt and like to pvp, what were trying to say is it's not balanced in a way where the pvpers get to have as much fun as the rper's. I mean the GM's try to get us ganking but when we don't because everyones macroing they just have another exuse to call is lazy and no new players even bother trying the gank..

Coordinates are a big no.

But maybe we could try for a week to display the region a player is in on the website if he/she isn't hidden. Then you would still have to do some searching on your own if you want to find someone.

thank you that would be nice

[imported_Jackal]

Anytime I go spy on people I see at least 3-5 people hunting so dont asume everyone is macroing, cause you dont know that for sure. Just cause you dont see people in the pits talking doesnt mean people arent active. Instead of sitting around go out and find them who cares if it takes sometime thats part of the game.

[smoke]

Anytime I go spy on people I see at least 3-5 people hunting so dont asume everyone is macroing, cause you dont know that for sure. Just cause you dont see people in the pits talking doesnt mean people arent active. Instead of sitting around go out and find them who cares if it takes sometime thats part of the game.

3-5 people that recal when they see me on sight even when i do find them doesn't mean ill have time to kill them (recal scrolls) then all that time will be wasted searching for them

anywas school g2g

[imported_Jackal]

I get it now you just want everyone to pvp now to make all the pvper's happy. Well hate to break it to you it wont ever happen. And if people recall from you right away why do you care to know where they go if there gonna recall right away anyways. Perhaps you guys need to look into different methods of killing people like I suggest camp at a spot hidden and when the time is right attack.

[imported_Gang-Bang]

Well, yeah everyone will never PvP here, thats true. But seriously how do you expect PvPers to entertain themselves then? Waiting for someone at hunting spot for ~hour or two? Yeah its all good, but its not really PvP... Keep in mind, PK and PvP are two different things.. Killing someone who doesn't know and doesn't want to duel never will be funny, yeah its better than nothing, but still... What I'm saying is, there is no "PvP", no ganking, no dueling... Well ganking and dueling sometimes happens, but its always same people, ALWAYS. Even at autosupplied tours god damnit. Right now, theres like ~5-10 ppl of 40ppl player base who would go ganking. If we want increase the amount of those ppl to 20 at least, does it mean that we want "everyone to PvP" ?
I'm not saying staff doing bad job, don't get me wrong. And I appreciate that lately you guys started to host and you look motivated. But what im trying to say is - If staff is ingame and can't host due to some issues thats fine and everyone understand that, even if u just don't want to host cos you're bored of hosting, or something like that. But when you refuse to host on purpose and tell to people to entertain themselves, you probably wrong. Cos as I already said, PvP happens only on tours there, well 98% of a time...