[imported_Ryuuku]

Last days/month I just entered in the seeds/plant business and its very fun after you learn how to do it.

The only problem is by growing a plant in the usual way it takes you 9 days to reach the final stage and more 8 to get all seeds from it. So its 17 days till you pass it to decorative mode ( all those 17 days you need to spend potions with it and after put it in decorative mode it dont need potions or water anymore).

But Have a way to make it at last 2 days faster, and its by puting fertile dirty in the bow you are going to use to grow the plants, but we need ALOT fertile dirty to do it ( 40 or 42 not sure) and have just one place to get it ( at last by my knoweled) and it take me like half hour to get 50/55.

With half hour there I can just fill one bow to grow a plant. ATM Im growing like 50 plants. 50x40= 2k fertile dirty, its like 20 hours to get that amount (LOL). edit: Also each day growing 50 plants get me like 25 str, 20 posion, 6 cure ( All Greater Potions).

So I sugest here add more fertile dirt to the monster loot OR add more monsters OR add fertile dirty to a vendor. Or all those alternatives.

Also Decrease the amount needed to fill the bow from 40 to 15/20.

Its not a big deal at the end , it just go make the plants grow 2 days faster so I dont see any problem add fertile dirty to a vendor.

But make huge diference in resource needed:

17 Days (50 plants growing)= 425 str, 340 poison, 102 cure.
15 Days Same amount = 375 (50 less), 300 poison (40 Less), 90 cure (12 Less).

50 str potion = 250 mandrake
40 poison = 160 Night Shade (if you dont fail)
12 cure = 72 Garilic ( Probably even more cause its 70 sucess chance)

Remember all those are greater potions.

[imported_Jiraiya]

What sam said.

40 is way too much, 10-15 and please make more of it drop
Adding to a vendor like herbalist npc or something would be nice as well.

[imported_Shade]

no.

Think about it rationally. You spend half an hour collecting the fertile dirt to take off 23 hours of growth. That is totally fair. Its clear that since you have 50 plants growing as it is that plants are too easily grown.

Its your choice to spend half an hour per plant to remove a growth period off them or not. Personally if I was that into the plants I would be fine with 30 minutes of work to get seeds a day (23 hours) sooner.

Oh and fyi there is another way to take a growth period off.

[imported_Jiraiya]

no.

Think about it rationally. You spend half an hour collecting the fertile dirt to take off 23 hours of growth. That is totally fair. Its clear that since you have 50 plants growing as it is that plants are too easily grown.

Its your choice to spend half an hour per plant to remove a growth period off them or not. Personally if I was that into the plants I would be fine with 30 minutes of work to get seeds a day (23 hours) sooner.

Oh and fyi there is another way to take a growth period off.

Having 50 plants growing is the result of over 5 weeks of smaller crops and harvesting them for seeds, cross pollenating for new seeds, etc. Was it hard? No. Keeping track of it was much harder before the seedbox. Now that part is easier. But its just plants lol. Who wants to spend 30 minutes to get only enough dirt for only one plant? These arent blood diamonds here man, its only deco. Theres not exactly a big market for them. I see it more like a minigame within UO, its fun but ultimately useless. Also if you have a small crop say 10 plants going, you're looking at 5 hours to farm up enough dirt for them. So say you spend 2 hours, and get enough dirt for 4 plants. Well great, now your cycle is messed up because you cant cross them with the ones which wont flower till a day later.

This is pretty irrelevant really, its just something that would be nice for growers. I dont see a need for it to be "difficult". If it was an hour to farm up enough of it to fill 10 bowls I'd prolly do it then. I'm still going out and spending time being active at least. Or if it was buyable from a vendor at least I'm spending money which takes time and resources to get. If more of it dropped you might even see people farming it up and selling it on their vendors in the mall to growers. I'd buy it rather then hunt those things. Thats all I gotta say about it :/

[imported_Shade]

Don't get me wrong its not like I am saying screw plant growers but the thing is the faster and easier it is to grow them the more that will be in the world. Speeding up the process just devalues the plants even further which is something I am not totally in favor of. There are already lots of seeds in the world and if everyone planted them all right now, in 14 days there would be 5x as many and so on. I would just prefer to keep that rate of growth from getting any faster. I could make them drop a possible 1 or 2 more or add more mobs that drop it but reducing the amount required is out of the question :p

[imported_Jiraiya]

Don't get me wrong its not like I am saying screw plant growers but the thing is the faster and easier it is to grow them the more that will be in the world. Speeding up the process just devalues the plants even further which is something I am not totally in favor of. There are already lots of seeds in the world and if everyone planted them all right now, in 14 days there would be 5x as many and so on. I would just prefer to keep that rate of growth from getting any faster. I could make them drop a possible 1 or 2 more or add more mobs that drop it but reducing the amount required is out of the question :p

Yeah but their value is pretty much nil anyway. The amount of resources (pots) that it takes to grow plants, plus the long time periods to get the plant, make it not even worth it to sell. Would have to charge like 5-10k for a plant and who'd buy at that price? I know I wouldnt. Would be much better to sell seed boxes with a few types of seed for like 50k and let people grow their own and enjoy the "minigame" themselves. Colored seeds would still hold value well because it allows you to do more complex stuff if you crossbreed correctly. But still you're looking at a large time investment (months) to see some good results from growing. I think most of the people who grow are doing it for personal deco plants and such, or to play around with the minigame. Its fun but does get tedious after a few crops, the fert dirt would just give a nice little boost to a small crop if it was made easier to get. Right now I'd never use it simply because its not worth the effort to go get it, and even at 1-2 more per mob it still wouldnt be. :doubt:

[imported_Shade]

Next update they will receive a small boost as well as other mobiles dropping it now too.