[Maximus]

what makes you think that no fizzle pvp was the reason for the decline in players? It looks like most of the players that were pvping are still here.

i think the time of year has much more to do with it. For people in college its coming up on finals.But also..you have to consider that UO is an old game. Some people come back to it for nostalgic reasons, get their fix for a few weeks, then leave it behind.

look at the two really big UO servers: IPY and UO Hybrid. Both are way down on players as well. IPY was getting close to 1000 just a couple months ago and now they are half that. (they allow 3 clients on at a time so their #'s are not all unique players) But my point is, if player bases are down all over UO free servers then the decline in players on IN likely has nothing to do with something you feel the staff did or didn't do.

IN hit close to 200 players but most of those hadn't yet reached the point where they knew a lot about the IN pvp dynamics. Most people when starting out don't even pay attention to pvp. I've been on the server for a couple months and i still havn't pvp'd yet.

a lot of us starting playing UO way back when we were practically kids and now like 14 years later we're adults with busy lives and responsibilities. For some the idea of playing UO again sounds fun. They sign up and play for a bit then realize they don't have the time for it. If i had to guess why the player base peaked and then declined i would say it has more to do with the fact UO players are older now and not as devoted to spending hours and hours playing an MMO.

Hey Listen.. Im not saying I think that the pvp system is purely the cause.. Your absolutely right.. This is busy time for alot of people... UO is a mid september-winter kind of deal. But what seperated UO from WoW.. for me was fizzle pvp and the fact you can full loot..I know you can full loot on here, but id rather play WoW a game that requires fast clicking on a keyboard just like this pvp did and have amazing graphics as well instead of being stuck in the early 1990's.. Fizzle PvP was the innovation that kept me playing UO for these long amount of years.. Not saying that this style didnt work for you for how many years you been playing.. But alot of players went to WoW cause its basically the same shit with great graphics. All I can think of when I was trying this pvp was the south park episode of them all playing wow.. thats what this style reminds me of.