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PvP Changes
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sm0ke Wrote:I'm saying hes making it sound much complicated than it actually is, making it seem like everything is a math question to be solved to learn this type of pvp or use it.

You can have the right code or "algorithm" for something to make it work properly like poison, but it doesn't mean it's balanced or good for the shard with this type of PvP. That goes for the mana regeneration as well.



I don't think so and don't think it ever will because it's the same exact list I pmed loki about 2 weeks ago from the test shard, then have everyone bring up the same points in this thread and from the other thread as well basically bringing up the same problems i've already posted numerous amount of times.

EDIT: Anyways what do I care, diablo 3 is coming out in 15 days

If you look actually relatively few people have made complaint, it's just that I tend to be willing to talk things out. I still think you jump too conclusions too easily, you may be right, I don't think you are, but even if you are I still don't think you've actually tested things out in as much depth as I would like. Improvements have to be made, sticking your head in the sand about making changes isn't the way, and neither are tiny tweaks.

As for the maths side of things, I believe mathematics is the correct way to balance things, but understanding the maths is not necessary for participation, only an understanding of what the purpose of each tool is. Which I've now written a guide for, you may (apparently) dislike most of the changes, but I still hope as an experienced PvPer you have a chance to take a look.

Edit: Seeing the maths you may also realise that the regeneration and poison systems are not as dramatic as something you'd see on an OSI style or AoS server. Particularly the mitigation which is actually lower than I quoted earlier in this thread (mental miscalculation on my part) and regen which accounts for only 50% of total mana if you choose to stick with pot chugging.

Maximus Wrote:Been a while sense I have checked things out around the world of UO.. decided to come on over to in-uo.net and check out whats going on here.. Looks like my predictions are in full process... And some of you weirdo's were calling me a cancer.. What did me and my buddies say in the beginning.. If you give what you have always given.. You will get what you always got. I win.
Bye Smile

I hope no one responds to this obvious goading. We have always maintained we wished to improve our PvP system and now we are doing it, flaming is not helpful or necessary. It's a shame we lost a lot of players waiting for change to come but I hope our system will be more attractive for new people now, we (and I believe I speak for all the staff) have no interest in recriminations or arguing, we just want a good system which is fun for as many as possible and improvements and tweaks can be made if problems arise.


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PvP Changes - by Atlas - 04-27-2012, 07:40 PM
PvP Changes - by BenSa - 04-27-2012, 07:53 PM
PvP Changes - by Discord - 04-27-2012, 11:50 PM
PvP Changes - by kyleus3 - 04-28-2012, 12:00 AM
PvP Changes - by tranith - 04-28-2012, 12:39 AM
PvP Changes - by Mael - 04-28-2012, 01:35 AM
PvP Changes - by tranith - 04-29-2012, 04:18 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-29-2012, 09:39 PM
PvP Changes - by ElvenBane - 04-29-2012, 10:51 PM
PvP Changes - by BenSa - 04-29-2012, 11:01 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-29-2012, 11:08 PM
PvP Changes - by Mystic Fire - 04-29-2012, 11:21 PM
PvP Changes - by ElvenBane - 04-29-2012, 11:31 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 12:10 AM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 12:11 AM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 04-30-2012, 12:34 AM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 12:49 AM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 04-30-2012, 01:04 AM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 01:09 AM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 04-30-2012, 01:12 AM
PvP Changes - by Scare crow - 04-30-2012, 01:21 AM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 01:23 AM
PvP Changes - by Brandon - 04-30-2012, 01:25 AM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 04-30-2012, 01:28 AM
PvP Changes - by Brandon - 04-30-2012, 01:31 AM
PvP Changes - by Scare crow - 04-30-2012, 01:53 AM
PvP Changes - by Brandon - 04-30-2012, 01:58 AM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 02:05 AM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 02:12 AM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 04-30-2012, 02:12 AM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 04-30-2012, 02:15 AM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 02:30 AM
PvP Changes - by Cana - 04-30-2012, 09:34 AM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 12:48 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 01:02 PM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 01:15 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 01:43 PM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 01:53 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 02:00 PM
PvP Changes - by Halt - 04-30-2012, 02:02 PM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 02:11 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 02:28 PM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 02:47 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 02:56 PM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 03:03 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 03:13 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 03:17 PM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 03:22 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 03:33 PM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 04-30-2012, 05:34 PM
PvP Changes - by Raziel_ - 04-30-2012, 06:03 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 06:17 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 07:01 PM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 04-30-2012, 07:01 PM
PvP Changes - by Mael - 04-30-2012, 07:10 PM
PvP Changes - by Echo - 04-30-2012, 07:59 PM
PvP Changes - by Felonious - 04-30-2012, 10:56 PM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 04-30-2012, 11:05 PM
PvP Changes - by Mael - 04-30-2012, 11:21 PM
PvP Changes - by Maximus - 04-30-2012, 11:35 PM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 11:43 PM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 05-01-2012, 12:36 AM
PvP Changes - by Be|gar - 05-01-2012, 12:37 AM
PvP Changes - by Maximus - 05-01-2012, 01:43 AM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 05-01-2012, 01:59 AM
PvP Changes - by Bruce - 05-01-2012, 02:13 AM
PvP Changes - by Loki - 05-01-2012, 02:20 AM
PvP Changes - by Mister Pickles - 05-01-2012, 02:22 AM
PvP Changes - by Falstaff - 05-01-2012, 10:36 AM
PvP Changes - by Maximus - 05-01-2012, 12:15 PM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 05-01-2012, 04:01 PM
PvP Changes - by por corp wis - 05-01-2012, 05:03 PM
PvP Changes - by Mael - 05-01-2012, 05:26 PM
PvP Changes - by Falstaff - 05-01-2012, 08:27 PM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 05-01-2012, 08:44 PM
PvP Changes - by Ramza - 05-01-2012, 11:48 PM
PvP Changes - by Kander - 05-02-2012, 12:04 AM
PvP Changes - by Atlas - 05-02-2012, 08:30 AM
PvP Changes - by Bruce - 05-02-2012, 08:40 AM
PvP Changes - by por corp wis - 05-02-2012, 12:06 PM
PvP Changes - by Azuru - 05-02-2012, 12:28 PM
PvP Changes - by Kander - 05-02-2012, 02:38 PM
PvP Changes - by sm0ke - 05-02-2012, 08:55 PM
PvP Changes - by Falstaff - 05-03-2012, 06:58 AM
PvP Changes - by Atlas - 05-07-2012, 03:16 PM
PvP Changes - by Thenu - 05-07-2012, 07:43 PM
PvP Changes - by Kander - 05-07-2012, 09:21 PM
PvP Changes - by Mister Pickles - 05-07-2012, 09:52 PM
PvP Changes - by BenSa - 05-08-2012, 12:14 AM
PvP Changes - by Aki Hiro - 05-08-2012, 04:04 PM
PvP Changes - by Ramza - 05-09-2012, 01:22 AM
PvP Changes - by Be|gar - 05-09-2012, 04:04 AM
PvP Changes - by Galehaut - 05-09-2012, 06:44 AM
PvP Changes - by BenSa - 05-09-2012, 08:28 AM
PvP Changes - by Galehaut - 05-09-2012, 03:06 PM
PvP Changes - by Bruce - 05-10-2012, 04:42 AM
PvP Changes - by Fulmanar - 05-10-2012, 04:49 AM
PvP Changes - by Be|gar - 05-10-2012, 05:11 AM
PvP Changes - by Gang - 05-10-2012, 05:43 AM
PvP Changes - by Mael - 05-09-2012, 06:02 PM

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