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The PvP testing area (live!)
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Loki Wrote:True, but this is not just for my benefit, the feedback is for everyone and the final decisions will be made by Taran, not me.



See reply to Scare.



Correct. However, the DPS for Mind Blast is lower than FS, as is the DPM. It does, however, have situational advantages. That's the idea behind most the changes, each spell has a purpose, learn the purpose and judge when to use it best and you'll benefit the most. If you try to nuke with Mind Blast though and you'll find it's not as time or mana efficient as FS scrolls, so poor use is self-penalising.



I've actually only knocked FS mana up to 26 and lightning has not changed. Most people told me their mana lasts pretty well. I'm not sure what to say about this one, except that obviously in a regen system pacing your casting is key, the ability to "burst mana" is reduced as you have on demand 9 less mana from the total mana potion. However, over a long time frame you will have more mana and spells cost the same (except FS scroll at 26) so mana management should not be significantly harder, only a little different.

On global: total refresh: 36mana/27secs
On testing area: total refresh: 27mana/27secs + Regen: 27mana/27secs is 54mana total. If anything this may be OP but I believe it is balanced by the increased need to drink greater cure or heal potions (sad that the changes to them are currently broken so it is harder to test).



Yes, see reply above. I want to reduce the number of scrolls needed to PvP. I'd happily remove almost all of them but I am sure Taran would not allow that. If people could gear up and PvP faster, cheaper and with less pain I'm sure we'd see greater participation from those who are currently disinclined to take part. Also, PvP will get more expensive now because you will need AR otherwise Explosion, FS and Fireball will destroy you. This means savings must be made elsewhere because PvP must not become too expensive. I think most people would like to see more armour and weapon use rather than just crazy expensive and mass amounts of supplies?



Sorry, I do not understand. Neither of these spells is different in the testing area. You realise I am not changing the dueling gear? The testing area is to simulate world PvP. In fact I reduced wall of stone duration so if anything such behaviour will now be more difficult.



Harm: 21dmg, 11mana, 2.1s cast. DPS is 10damage/s
Flame Strike scroll: 42-47dmg, 26mana, 2.1s cast. DPS is 20+damage/s

21 may seem a big number, but Harm is a weak spell. But like all the adjusted spells, it has a purpose, it just isn't good for nuking.



I'd like to stick to PvP concerns only, training, hunting, skill gains and economics can be adjusted after. To anyone reading who is worried about this, I am extremely determined not to let PvP changes ruin any other aspect of the game and I assure you if these changes go global great care will be taken to make sure other aspects of the game remain the same or are also improved.

As for the scrolls thing, see above, would happily remove more if I was allowed. I think it is good to have all the attack spells used though and to each have a true purpose, and it makes PvP look more varied than if only the lightning, FS and GH power words are ever seen.

This is a big post so i'm just gonna post my thought's on what should be changed instead of redesigning the PvP imo.

Honestly the pvp is quite fine as it is now, hits need to be tweaked a bit with armor like i've said FOREVER ago, we don't really need a redesign in the PvP we just need some spells to do much damage and some to heal more such as FS Light and Greater heal, I think aside from that nothing else needs to be changed. The more damage fs can do and be covered by GH will make people who are only 2-3 be able to gank vs bigger numbers because FS damage will be increased and they have a chance to double fs/nuke the player if they have proper timing and coordination.


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The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-16-2012, 01:41 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-16-2012, 02:15 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-16-2012, 02:17 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-16-2012, 06:44 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Grendel_IN - 04-16-2012, 09:21 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-16-2012, 10:50 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Mael - 04-17-2012, 12:44 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-17-2012, 12:47 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-17-2012, 02:32 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-17-2012, 02:52 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Scare crow - 04-17-2012, 03:02 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-17-2012, 03:06 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-17-2012, 03:26 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Habibi Jones - 04-17-2012, 03:41 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-17-2012, 03:42 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Overdose - 04-17-2012, 04:51 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Gang - 04-17-2012, 05:05 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-17-2012, 05:34 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Gang - 04-17-2012, 06:10 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-17-2012, 06:12 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-17-2012, 06:29 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Gang - 04-17-2012, 06:29 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-17-2012, 06:36 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Gang - 04-17-2012, 06:52 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-17-2012, 07:18 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Gang - 04-17-2012, 07:29 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Mito - 04-17-2012, 11:01 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Cana - 04-17-2012, 11:56 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-17-2012, 12:02 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-17-2012, 12:32 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-17-2012, 04:56 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Habibi Jones - 04-17-2012, 07:07 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Taran - 04-17-2012, 07:58 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-17-2012, 11:35 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Habibi Jones - 04-18-2012, 03:22 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Eclipse - 04-18-2012, 05:27 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Thenu - 04-18-2012, 11:10 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-18-2012, 11:21 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by BenSa - 04-18-2012, 03:36 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Mael - 04-18-2012, 05:49 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-18-2012, 06:15 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Mael - 04-18-2012, 07:13 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Mito - 04-18-2012, 07:18 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by ElvenBane - 04-19-2012, 08:47 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-19-2012, 01:52 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-22-2012, 12:35 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-22-2012, 07:03 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Taran - 04-22-2012, 08:02 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-23-2012, 01:10 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Echo - 04-23-2012, 04:30 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-23-2012, 04:12 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-24-2012, 01:05 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-24-2012, 01:55 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-27-2012, 12:30 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-27-2012, 01:23 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-27-2012, 02:41 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by sm0ke - 04-27-2012, 02:56 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Ramza - 04-28-2012, 08:02 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Artur - 04-29-2012, 01:43 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Artur - 04-29-2012, 02:06 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Gang - 04-29-2012, 04:04 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-29-2012, 09:29 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-29-2012, 09:35 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Ramza - 04-29-2012, 11:48 PM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Loki - 04-30-2012, 12:51 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Artur - 05-01-2012, 10:41 AM
The PvP testing area (live!) - by Gang - 05-01-2012, 12:10 PM

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