[Fulmanar]

Fulm,
the no guild looting rule wasnt in place from shard birth.
It was put in for a reason? What was the reason?

Obviously, someone got guild looted (someone with some weight to their word/opinion....obviously more weight than the rest of us) and had hurt/sour feelings, threatened to either leave/no longer donate/whatever (i dont know which exactly) and the rule was put into place.
Unless youre telling me, Taran woke up one day...ate cornflakes and said, 'you know, im gonna make guild looting illegal today!' Maybe some people would buy that story....but not me....nor would 99% of people with an IQ over 25. Something happened that triggered this rule being put into place.

If this was a shard birth rule, your argument would hold water. But, its not a shard birth rule....

therefore, it was at one point catering. it was favoritism.
And the players who disagree with rules like this being put into play are just supposed to up and leave after we've put in hard work, donated, etc?

No, whoever QQ'd in the beginning to staff about it (or if it was a staff member) BEFORE THE RULE WAS IN PLAY should have been the one to go play somewhere else.

And Fulm, my posts on this topic hold perfect logic. I suppose i'm the bad guy for trying to uphold the spirit of a fel shard, though.

I never said the rule was there in the beginning, in fact i've stated many times to the contrary, but what does it matter if it were there since the beginning, for all Taran cares he can wipe the world and make it the beginning, it's his shard and he does what he likes? if he made a rule saying that every player had to wear a purple hat tomorrow, everyone will have to start doing it even if it wasn't a rule since the beginning.

Your accusations of favoritism are still misplaced, neither you nor I were there and we cannot make claims to such, it also demonstrates nothing even if it was favoritism(which i'm sure it wasn't) the rule was still put into place, a rule which effects both you and I.

I am directly stating that if you don't like a situation and you dislike it and are not forced into it then yes you should saddle up and leave, if you hate a job do you not quit? if you don't want to go to the gym anymore even after you paid your membership do you not quit? No one is forcing you to stay, you have the right to play at your leisure and pace.

Now let me be forthright and state that I don't want you to leave, all i'm saying is that if this place isn't up to snuff then no one is forcing you to remain, and if you donated well, you donated to something you don't necessarily agree with because you may not have read the fine print, this happens all the time, chalk it up to a bag decision, nothing can be done about that.

And about the person in question, I don't know who it is however why should you punish the person who had grievances, this is akin to a man pushing my grandfather down the stairs and putting me in jail because I didn't put non slip tethering onto the bannister.

I didn't say your posts had no logic I said I wanted to know the logic because I do not, if I didn't like this shard i'd stop playing it, i'm not being coerced into this and I knew what I was getting myself into from the get go and so do you.

And no, you're not a bad person, I agree once more(this is the 5th time I said it) that guild looting is in the spirit of UO, but the spirit of a fel shard that you describe isn't the spirit of this one, you're upholding something that has no material existence here Taran creates the spirit here and he made it into this. We still also have to worry about the playerbase, no playerbase is no shard so either we rape pillage and burn now and find ourselves with nothing later or we build what we have no so we can rape pillage and plunder for a long time to come.