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The suggestions forum has been a mess lately. The purpose of this forum is to suggest changes, explain why they should be implemented, and allow others to input their opinions on whether the idea is a good one or a bad one.

The goal of this is to find out what the problem is, then fix it if it exists. If you need help on how to debate, try google or this page: http://www.ehow.com/how_2092700_debate.html

The goal is NOT to have the people who are able to post the most and loudest on the forums dominate the conversation and make a thread an impossible 12 pages of arguing with nothing of value. Lots of perfectly decent ideas succumb to TL;DR because of this.

I've written up a list of things to include and not include in a suggestion based on common sense and logic.


Suggestions

Include the following:

• What should be changed, added or removed?
  
• Why should this be done?
  
• Examples of what you mean to clarify if necessary.
  
• Proof, numbers or at the very least a sound argument for your position.

Responses

• Do you agree with the original poster.
  
• Why is the original suggestion Good/Bad?
  
• Proof, numbers, or at least a very sound argument for your position.

What NOT to include.

• Short posts that are either "Agree or Disagree". A simple vote in a poll will fix this.
  
• Flames against the original idea. If you have to resort to name calling or trolling to argue a point, your argument is probably garbage anyway.
  
• Hearsay, personal information, accusations or questioning others' skills.
  
• A repetition of an argument that has already been made. Assume that everyone has read the argument, then provide more if necessary. Or even better, edit your original post to clarify.

The bottom line is this. If you can imagine yourself reading the thing that you wrote like this, it's fine to post:


If you would look more like this while reading your post, then just hit the back button and skip responding.



Examples:
You're just mad because you suck at PVP. Learn to play noob pvp is fine. (why is PVP fine now and why would their idea be bad?)

That idea's dumb, mana regen is fine just drink a potion. (What would be the negative effect of buffing Meditation?)

This is not {insert some shard here}. (Why does that even matter? Why is their way worse than ours?)

F*** You noob. Come say that in game and i'll kill you and take all your cupcakes. (Completely unrelated and will be deleted. Don't be a farm animal.)

Anger is never without an argument, but seldom with a good one.
-Indira Gandhi

Argument is meant to reveal the truth, not to create it.
-Edward de Bono

Convincing yourself doesn't win an argument.
-Robert Half

Discussion is an exchange of knowledge; an argument an exchange of ignorance.
-Robert Quillen

He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his reason is weak.
-Michel de Montaigne

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