03-01-2012, 07:40 PM
Numb nuts, you are saying "back to topic" after you tried to make it rain from my eye socket. Now that's not really logical is it. If you want to be the bigger man you'll have to be the bigger man, can't really attempt something just to say "lets stop this" in the post afterwards.
"As far as I can remember" really isn't the same as "I'm not sure". If it is, then my English is messed up. To me the first implies that you at some point knew what you are talking about and that the "numbers" might be a little off due to time. Second one implies less knowledge of the situation. Answer "Do you think programming is hard?" with "As far as I can remember" and with "I'm not sure", they are not the same. And yes, I am a raging dick, but only to a selected few and only when I enjoy the result.
I didn't say that GINI is random. What I said was that you spit out some ill formulated bullshit with no factual base. Then, when you are called on it, you ask mr google and find a reference that fits somewhat close to what you were trying to say. GINI applies to the discussion but it can in no way be interpreted as "Sweden only has like a 5% difference between the richest and poorest classes". Only way to interpret it is the previous mentioned, both by me and later yourself.
The gap between the richest and poorest class is ~ 2500% before tax and ~ 700% after tax so you were a percent or two off. The "classes" are defined by taking 10% of the richest and 10% of the poorest people. We could from your numbers make the assumption that the income gap in the US is either 50 or 14 times, though I'd assume ~ 50 since you don't have our taxes to balance out.
You're becoming a boring conversation partner, and while its fun to point and laugh, theres still not enough substance coming from you to actually make me want to reply. From now on I think I'll stick with oneish liners when you are being extraordinary stupid and aggravating. Normal stupid is OK, don't worry.
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Platsbanken is pretty decent I think, they have a lot of companies posting job offers. You'll have to do most of the work yourself though, while at previous mentioned sites, they would help you because they make money on you.
Nasir Wrote:You sound like a raging pretentious cock, because I obviously stated I wasn't sure multiple times. It wasn't a random fact, it was a number I wasn't 100% about that I had read in a book written in 2001 that might be dated.
"As far as I can remember" really isn't the same as "I'm not sure". If it is, then my English is messed up. To me the first implies that you at some point knew what you are talking about and that the "numbers" might be a little off due to time. Second one implies less knowledge of the situation. Answer "Do you think programming is hard?" with "As far as I can remember" and with "I'm not sure", they are not the same. And yes, I am a raging dick, but only to a selected few and only when I enjoy the result.
Nasir Wrote:Plus, the gini index info that I posted wasn't random... it's clearly on the same subject I was referring to. It's a very clearly defined measure.
I didn't say that GINI is random. What I said was that you spit out some ill formulated bullshit with no factual base. Then, when you are called on it, you ask mr google and find a reference that fits somewhat close to what you were trying to say. GINI applies to the discussion but it can in no way be interpreted as "Sweden only has like a 5% difference between the richest and poorest classes". Only way to interpret it is the previous mentioned, both by me and later yourself.
Nasir Wrote:So tell me... What is the exact income gap for Sweden, since you obviously know?
The gap between the richest and poorest class is ~ 2500% before tax and ~ 700% after tax so you were a percent or two off. The "classes" are defined by taking 10% of the richest and 10% of the poorest people. We could from your numbers make the assumption that the income gap in the US is either 50 or 14 times, though I'd assume ~ 50 since you don't have our taxes to balance out.
Nasir Wrote:And how doesn't that apply to the fact that a lower income in Sweden would still be balanced by the significantly lower income disparity even if my number was wrong?This could mean a few things, don't really know what you are referring too. I'll assume that you mean that since income is more balanced here cost of living becomes better balanced/"more fair" and I agree to some extend. But me jumping on to your numbers...really? I probably wouldn't if you weren't off by a magnitude of 10. I might have tried though, kind of think you're failing pretentious idiot (no, you are not a dick, just an idiot).
Nasir Wrote:stay out of my thread if you're going to run this far off topic.I didn't know I was stealing your property, especially since you went OT before I joined the discussion.
Nasir Wrote:That's off topic and my income would still be significantly higher than average.I'm trying to tell you that it most likely (read 85-95%) wouldn't. It might be higher if you only compare to people your age and experience (as in how long you've worked), but if you are just counting average salary (ignoring field, age and experience, only counting money) you'd probably make less than average joe. If you are lucky and get a well paying job, you could land at around 120% avg. As previously stated, education, experience and age are all of quite big importance in the software industry here, I do not know how it is in the US.
Nasir Wrote:I know the income rates and what my quality of life would be there and am well aware of what the tax rates areYou clearly didn't but its OK. If you focus enough and ignore everything pointing in the right direction, I'm sure you'll feel knowledgeable and good about yourself soon again.
You're becoming a boring conversation partner, and while its fun to point and laugh, theres still not enough substance coming from you to actually make me want to reply. From now on I think I'll stick with oneish liners when you are being extraordinary stupid and aggravating. Normal stupid is OK, don't worry.
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Platsbanken is pretty decent I think, they have a lot of companies posting job offers. You'll have to do most of the work yourself though, while at previous mentioned sites, they would help you because they make money on you.