04-02-2010, 07:22 AM
Please do report me to Taran and point him to this very thread. I simply commented on a post of yours and you come back flaming me, which is your usual behavior so we shouldn't be at all surprised. I've lost track of how many times you've threatened to report me to staff for one thing or another yet they never say anything to me... Maybe, now just maybe, it's because I'm not the issue here.
Ok, back to the topic now... What you're saying about bigger weapons doing more damage and being slower generally does occur, but it's not the definitive rule as you are very clearly claiming it should be in your post, nor should it be.
I think I have every regular class weapon listed here, grouped by the type of weapon that they are. Note I didn't group them according to what skill they use, but physically the type of weapon they are. By the way, I believe the attack value is the max damage the weapon can do. With arms lore we have no way of telling the min damage. Smoke take 30 seconds and look at the list. It should be apparent to you that just because a weapon is bigger, doesn't mean it's automatically slower.
Swords:
Dagger:
Attack: 4
Speed: 200
Kryss:
Attack: 20
Speed: 248
Katana:
Attack: 24
Speed: 331
Cutlass:
Attack: 29
Speed: 332
Broadsword:
Attack: 30
Speed: 334
Scimitar:
Attack: 30
Speed: 342
Long sword: (it's not a mistake, there are 2 types of longswords)
Attack: 34
Speed: 396
Longsword: (it's not a mistake, there are 2 types of longswords)
Attack: 35
Speed: 401
Viking sword:
Attack: 41
Speed: 442
Axes:
Hatchet:
Attack: 31
Speed: 342
War axe:
Attack: 29
Speed: 350
Axe:
Attack: 39
Speed: 383
Double Axe:
Attack: 39
Speed: 401
Executioner's axe:
Attack: 34
Speed: 408
Battleaxe:
Attack: 36
Speed: 429
Two handed axe:
Attack: 45
Speed: 430
Large Battleaxe:
Attack: 43
Speed: 440
Maces & clubs:
Club:
Attack: 22
Speed: 302
Warmace:
Attack: 33
Speed: 420
Maul:
Attack: 29
Speed: 431
Mace:
Attack: 39
Speed: 441
Hammerpick:
Attack: 45
Speed: 604
War hammer:
Attack: 51
Speed: 618
Polearms:
Short spear:
Attack: 36
Speed: 306
Pitchfork:
Attack: 16
Speed: 333
Spear:
Attack: 39
Speed: 351
Bardiche:
Attack: 48
Speed: 516
Halberd:
Attack: 57
Speed: 616
Staves:
Quarter staff:
Attack: 35
Speed: 355
Black staff:
Attack: 33
Speed: 391
Gnarled staff:
Attack: 33
Speed: 392
Shepard's crook:
Attack: 12
Speed: 450
Other:
Warfork:
Attack: 27
Speed: 390
Pickaxe:
Attack: 15
Speed: 400
Look at the axes category. Battleaxe is commonly accepted to be a good dueling weapon, but in fact the two handed axe does 9 more damage at a cost of only 1 speed. I think I just made this weapon more popular... hopefully certain people don't complain that weapons aren't balanced!
Now look at the staves category. The quarter staff, gnarled staff and black staff all look to be the same size but they range in attack speeds by more then just a few points.
Now look at a bardiche vs a hammer pick. A hammer pick is a smaller weapon but considerably slower then the bardiche.
Even in the real world (I know you like real world examples), bigger doesn't always equal slower and stronger.
Take hockey players for example. Francis Bouillon is a defenseman for the Nashville Predators, is 5'8" and weighs 198lbs. By your logic of bigger = slower and stronger, Bouillon would be a super fast guy and not have a lot of speed. In fact he's the opposite way around. He isn't super fast but he is very powerful.
I hope now you can understand why I made my previous comments.
Ok, back to the topic now... What you're saying about bigger weapons doing more damage and being slower generally does occur, but it's not the definitive rule as you are very clearly claiming it should be in your post, nor should it be.
I think I have every regular class weapon listed here, grouped by the type of weapon that they are. Note I didn't group them according to what skill they use, but physically the type of weapon they are. By the way, I believe the attack value is the max damage the weapon can do. With arms lore we have no way of telling the min damage. Smoke take 30 seconds and look at the list. It should be apparent to you that just because a weapon is bigger, doesn't mean it's automatically slower.
Swords:
Dagger:
Attack: 4
Speed: 200
Kryss:
Attack: 20
Speed: 248
Katana:
Attack: 24
Speed: 331
Cutlass:
Attack: 29
Speed: 332
Broadsword:
Attack: 30
Speed: 334
Scimitar:
Attack: 30
Speed: 342
Long sword: (it's not a mistake, there are 2 types of longswords)
Attack: 34
Speed: 396
Longsword: (it's not a mistake, there are 2 types of longswords)
Attack: 35
Speed: 401
Viking sword:
Attack: 41
Speed: 442
Axes:
Hatchet:
Attack: 31
Speed: 342
War axe:
Attack: 29
Speed: 350
Axe:
Attack: 39
Speed: 383
Double Axe:
Attack: 39
Speed: 401
Executioner's axe:
Attack: 34
Speed: 408
Battleaxe:
Attack: 36
Speed: 429
Two handed axe:
Attack: 45
Speed: 430
Large Battleaxe:
Attack: 43
Speed: 440
Maces & clubs:
Club:
Attack: 22
Speed: 302
Warmace:
Attack: 33
Speed: 420
Maul:
Attack: 29
Speed: 431
Mace:
Attack: 39
Speed: 441
Hammerpick:
Attack: 45
Speed: 604
War hammer:
Attack: 51
Speed: 618
Polearms:
Short spear:
Attack: 36
Speed: 306
Pitchfork:
Attack: 16
Speed: 333
Spear:
Attack: 39
Speed: 351
Bardiche:
Attack: 48
Speed: 516
Halberd:
Attack: 57
Speed: 616
Staves:
Quarter staff:
Attack: 35
Speed: 355
Black staff:
Attack: 33
Speed: 391
Gnarled staff:
Attack: 33
Speed: 392
Shepard's crook:
Attack: 12
Speed: 450
Other:
Warfork:
Attack: 27
Speed: 390
Pickaxe:
Attack: 15
Speed: 400
Look at the axes category. Battleaxe is commonly accepted to be a good dueling weapon, but in fact the two handed axe does 9 more damage at a cost of only 1 speed. I think I just made this weapon more popular... hopefully certain people don't complain that weapons aren't balanced!
Now look at the staves category. The quarter staff, gnarled staff and black staff all look to be the same size but they range in attack speeds by more then just a few points.
Now look at a bardiche vs a hammer pick. A hammer pick is a smaller weapon but considerably slower then the bardiche.
Even in the real world (I know you like real world examples), bigger doesn't always equal slower and stronger.
Take hockey players for example. Francis Bouillon is a defenseman for the Nashville Predators, is 5'8" and weighs 198lbs. By your logic of bigger = slower and stronger, Bouillon would be a super fast guy and not have a lot of speed. In fact he's the opposite way around. He isn't super fast but he is very powerful.
I hope now you can understand why I made my previous comments.