[imported_Malik]

I wasn't saying you should. I was saying in comparison you can get a VERY good set of armor from mining in much much less time.

You guys all perfectly illustrated my point for me. You can't get an Xtreme armor set in 1 day but you can get more then enough for 1 set of black diamond or black rock. For the odd occasion where you can use it that extra 12-15 AR isn't a deal breaker.

As for the time you put in to train bs & mining, you have to put in time to train pvm skills too such as provocation, peacemaking, etc all in addition to the basic skills like magery, combats, resting spells, etc.

I'm NOT saying you should be able to get an Xtreme armor set in 1 day, I'm saying that in about 30+ Xtreme monsters I've killed I only ever got 1 piece. Thats a 3% chance average. Seems very very low to me.

If you want to compare armors that you get by hunting and the ones that you get by crafting doesn't it make more sense to make comparison between equivalent ones? As in, it doesn't make sense to compare xtreme AR against the black diamond armor nor does it make sense to compare adaman set to hardening set when we are talking about how easy or hard they are to obtain.

That being said... Hardening is rather easy to obtain and it's equivalent in AR with black diamond set. Adamantium set is hard to obtain and has same AR as xtreme set. Adamantium set is a lot harder to obtain than xtreme but I guess that makes up for the fact that xtreme armor can't be repaired. In my opinion drop rates are fine and I think it was either Maka or Muto saying drop rates here are same as on XUO.