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reduce weights please please please
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Eighty Swords Wrote:I think it's very rare for a crafter with GM skills to keep making daggers continuously as they don't really gain anything there.

Yeah, a blacksmith doesnt need igs to make armor or anything. And being GM carp obviously removes the logs requirement from crafting furniture Big Grin
Sorry for being sarcastic again.

Eighty Swords Wrote:One of my other points is now that the player has GMed whatever the necessary skill would be, he gets another way to make more money when he already has plenty of ways, hence the silver platter and catering to them. Again, it's the gatherer that needs it the most, as he's in the process of gathering the resources.

Yes those plenty of ways to make cash are by SELLING THEIR CRAFTABLE ITEMS. Ya know, the reason they go through the hellishly long skillgain process to GM the skill to begin with. You act like a crafter just snaps his fingers and magically he has gm in a skill and can instantly make zillions. The fact is, a tailor can sell 2 things right now if he's gm. First, colored cloth of whatever tub he picked at gm, second, carpets. Thats it.

The profits you gain from that provided you can even sell anything at all is the smallest fraction of what you dump into the skill to gm it. And every resource gatherer is a crafter as well.

I see what your saying, that someone just starting out mining for money for a house or for magery macro or whatever is just doing it to sell the resource and not use it. But thats a fairly stupid way to do it, I did that same thing myself, only later realizing I'd have been much better off gathering wool for tailor, making bandana's and selling them. Or using iron for tinker and selling lockpicks. These are both good ways for new players to make cash by using their resource.

Eighty Swords Wrote:Like you said, everyone is a potential resource gatherer so that's more people buying the item, making the crafters who already have plenty of ways to get rich even richer. Again, hence the silver platter.

We're just going round in circles here mate. So I'll give you a different example. Say this item cost 25k to craft, you can sell for 30k. Thats a 5k profit obviously. Now say theres an active playerbase of 25 people. You will never be able to sell it to every one of those people, maybe 5 at most would buy (theres lots of crafters, people would just make it themselves etc.) So you make 25k profit over the course of say a week as people shop and eventually buy one. I can make 25k hunting in less then 20 minutes. As can anyone with basic hunting skills. Crafters here have very very few ways to actually make any profit. If smiths were to sell armor based on the amount of ore/igs they had to use to gm smithing, a set of exceptional old copper armor would be like 60k. Crafters gain the skills here because they enjoy doing it and like having the functionality to do things themselves, not to make profit. If they wanted profit they'd keep all their gold instead of dumping into skills which you never seen a true return on.

Eighty Swords Wrote:Does this help explain why I think gatherers are the target audience for this feature?

Yes, but I still disagree with you.


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reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-14-2009, 06:18 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Odium - 03-14-2009, 08:42 PM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-14-2009, 09:51 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Shade - 03-15-2009, 04:05 PM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-15-2009, 05:12 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Hiroshima - 03-16-2009, 12:49 AM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-16-2009, 04:13 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Hiroshima - 03-16-2009, 04:40 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Shade - 03-16-2009, 04:43 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Ryuuku - 03-16-2009, 05:01 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Jiraiya - 03-16-2009, 06:26 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Rabbi Samild - 03-16-2009, 12:50 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Jiraiya - 03-16-2009, 01:11 PM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-16-2009, 02:11 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Gang-Bang - 03-16-2009, 02:39 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Ryuuku - 03-16-2009, 03:18 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Ryuuku - 03-16-2009, 03:48 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Hiroshima - 03-16-2009, 10:08 PM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-16-2009, 11:22 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Jiraiya - 03-17-2009, 12:50 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Shade - 03-17-2009, 03:58 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Odium - 03-17-2009, 04:07 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Ryuuku - 03-17-2009, 04:10 AM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-17-2009, 04:17 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Ryuuku - 03-17-2009, 05:30 PM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-17-2009, 07:14 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Ryuuku - 03-17-2009, 07:56 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Hiroshima - 03-17-2009, 09:31 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Jiraiya - 03-18-2009, 09:16 PM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-19-2009, 01:05 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Jiraiya - 03-19-2009, 01:48 AM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-19-2009, 02:09 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Jiraiya - 03-19-2009, 02:52 AM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-19-2009, 03:46 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Jiraiya - 03-19-2009, 05:42 PM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-19-2009, 06:37 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Ryuuku - 03-19-2009, 06:49 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Ryuuku - 03-19-2009, 07:01 PM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 03-19-2009, 07:08 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Ryuuku - 03-19-2009, 07:15 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Shade - 03-20-2009, 04:02 AM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Jiraiya - 03-20-2009, 07:46 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Jiraiya - 04-03-2009, 03:18 PM
reduce weights please please please - by imported_Shade - 04-03-2009, 03:43 PM
reduce weights please please please - by Eighty Swords - 04-03-2009, 06:57 PM
reduce weights please please please - by smoke - 04-03-2009, 07:31 PM

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