[imported_Jiraiya]

I agree about changing the ar they give but being in an order guild should only be allowed to wear order shields or else there would be no reason to make order / chaos.. should just be called a guild shield you know what I mean?

I played on another shard a while ago where it was just a different req for getting the shields, like -10k karma 10k fame to get chaos. But regardless of if your guild was order or chaos you could still use the shield. As long as you werent neutral. Even from an rp standpoint it kinda doesnt make sense, say your a paladin or something, order/good, and something happens, your tortured or whatever, you go insane. Now your chaos, but are you gunna throw away that shield you spent 250k on just to buy another for 250k thats exactly the same except for graphic? I guess you could make the arguement that its to show which side your on. But to the only people who care, your whole char is bright orange or bright purple to. Its kinda hard to miss.

Say you have a guild with 5 people, and they are all demons or vamps or dragonkins or goblins, whatever. Now their RP would dictate they should be chaos probably, but say 4 of them much prefer an order shield dyed a certain color. Because to them it works with rp better, looks more sinister, whatever. Why wouldnt they be able to use an order shield? Just a shield with a nifty symbol on it. Or say someone is in a chaos guild, but then has a change of heart and joins an order guild to fight his old allies, why should he have to fork out another 250k for the same shield basically which he might not even like as much as his first one.