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***Magery skillgain***
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Smurtle Wrote:You see. I did mention the word "gain." So, taking it exactly as you typed it, you're wrong. I guess you just misread it. Rolleyes
Wow.... just wow...

Smurtle Wrote:No one will view this post looking to see how fast the skill gain is. The origin-post of this thread is to state "The magery gain has been made faster." If they want an idea, they sure as hell won't ask you.
Hmm. The thread is to state that magery has been made faster. "Faster" is useless without anything to compare it to. Most people would see this and still have no idea how fast magery actually is.

Smurtle Wrote:Those numbers you posted aren't accurately reflecting everyone's gain, especially when you don't factor in exact time, or monetary ability to achieve those. If I were to happen upon this I'd find no useful information, especially from kids posting what they supposedly calculated. A few of your posts didn't even have a time frame in them.
1) Anyone smart enough to read a few times stamps and extrapolate from my posts in which a time frame IS mentioned can easily figure out how long I macroed in each session. Come on. For instance, 300 poison spells at 30 seconds each is 150 minutes which is two and a half hours. For as smart as you act like you are, Im a little suprised you couldn't figure that out.

2) Im sorry I am not so concerned about skillgain that I mark down the exact time that I started and ended macroing. Again, I play this game to have fun, not to nitpick about every little detail.

3) I really hope you didn't just try to pull the Age card about a video game. Are you seriously trying to imply that "kids" have no place in this game? Or maybe you are trying to say that "kids" dont have the ability to take one number and divide it by another in a calculator?

4) Are you really trying to challenge my "supposed" calculations? Lol, they took me 5 seconds each. And, God forbid, if you are actually trying to accuse me of lying about my gains, then that is just completely sad. Seriusly.

Smurtle Wrote:However, back to the "uselessness" of my post. It's quite useful. Anyone can ask "Omg how did you do it because I can't afford magery right now, what is your secret!?" I could then tell them. Therein lies the practicality, the simple functionality that my post dwells in.
You don't seem to understand what you are saying. The post itself is definately useless. If somebody is asking a question, or looking for an answer, then you simply telling them you know it, without actually answering any part of their question, is COMPLETELY useless to them. Now, if you had actually stated what you knew, then it would have not been useless.

Smurtle Wrote:Thank you. Thank you for mindless posting your gains to a post that just stated that magery is faster, afterwards you began to ***** about how you were slighted. Thank you.
Hmm. I don't care at all if you apprecite it or not. You likely wouldnt have the capacity to do so anyways. There are players who will find this information useful in either encouraging them to train it or discouraging them to leave the shard, since Ive given enough information regarding time frame and money amount for them to determine how difficult it might be.

The staff also seems to appreciate it:
Nox Wrote:I highly appreciate your number work Linden.

thank you
Those of us that actually posted useful numerical data in this thread are no doubt helpful to the staff just so they can get at least get an idea of the kind of numbers their changes are producing. It might not be the end-all answer you seem to be looking for, but it sure beats what you've posted.

Smurtle Wrote:I posted because I know how to macro better than you and felt like telling
Are you sure? Just for your information, gaining healing was never an original intention in my macros. I actually put the healing action in after the poisons just in case somebody tried to kill me. I didn't realize until later than poison actually hurt you when you casted it on yourself, so I was actually just pleased to see any gains at all. Then I started using magic arrow so I could get faster gains less (less mana), and to guarantee a heal attempt after each cast. Still, however, gaining healing is a secondary benefit to the macroing, as my main goal is to gain magery.

Smurtle Wrote:You silly people quote way too much. Does anyone ever just...remember what they've read?
This posting technique is typically used when you fear that the one you are debating against may not actually remember what they read or said.

Smurtle Wrote:And I have almost all of my skills higher than yours. Not just one. ;/
Want a cookie?




Ok. Ill explain it again since you probably didn't get it that time either. Lets say somebody is glancing through this thread seeing what was said about the magery increase, perhaps with hope of seeing some information they can relate to. They start to read through the posts with relevant information, and start to get a pretty good idea of what it will take. They know how much the regs costed, and I posted, at least once, key elements like how I make my money (hunting), how much I make, and how long it takes me to make it. They also can find or derive useful information like a good estimation of how long it will take them to duplicate each of the sessions.

But then, they get to your post. What EXACTLY do the find out, JUST from reading your post? Sure, they could later ask you, but they could have done that without you posting. They could also just as easily ask anyone else. Hell, by your definition, I could have just stated "I have been training magery" from the beginning, without any numerical logs, and it would have still been "useful" in that everyone could have just personally asked me about it. So, other than the fact that they now know that you, along with the rest of the shard, have been macroing, what information do they learn that is useful to them?


Lastly, the reason I have been mentioning healing at all was to compare its gains to Magery gains, because it was believed that Magery should have been much harder. Of course we can see now that I am getting consistant results showing that healing is actually now harder than magery by a notable degree. So, my mentioning of healing is still very relevant to one of the main points in the thread which was a comparison in the skill gainrate of magery to other combats, of which healing seemed to be the focus.


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***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Taran - 11-03-2007, 08:15 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Veno - 11-03-2007, 08:18 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Taran - 11-03-2007, 08:19 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 08:23 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Taran - 11-03-2007, 08:25 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Nemo - 11-03-2007, 08:25 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 08:34 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Taran - 11-03-2007, 08:51 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Horacio - 11-03-2007, 08:53 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 08:56 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Love - 11-03-2007, 09:00 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Kano - 11-03-2007, 09:10 PM
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***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 10:30 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Taran - 11-03-2007, 10:39 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Slaquer - 11-03-2007, 10:44 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 10:51 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Taran - 11-03-2007, 10:59 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_BACoustic - 11-03-2007, 11:12 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Kano - 11-03-2007, 11:15 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 11:23 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Strife - 11-04-2007, 12:23 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Nemo - 11-04-2007, 12:32 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-04-2007, 12:41 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Coldrake - 11-04-2007, 01:21 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-04-2007, 07:50 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-04-2007, 09:14 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Kano - 11-04-2007, 09:19 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-04-2007, 10:29 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Rexal - 11-04-2007, 10:49 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-05-2007, 03:24 AM
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***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-05-2007, 05:24 AM
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***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Kitiara - 11-07-2007, 03:29 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Love - 11-07-2007, 04:15 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-07-2007, 05:51 AM
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***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-07-2007, 11:01 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-07-2007, 11:43 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-07-2007, 11:44 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-07-2007, 11:49 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-07-2007, 11:50 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-08-2007, 12:06 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-08-2007, 12:09 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_maxkicker - 11-08-2007, 12:21 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-08-2007, 12:22 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-08-2007, 12:34 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-08-2007, 12:51 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Rei - 11-08-2007, 01:03 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-08-2007, 01:06 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Tabion - 11-08-2007, 01:35 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-08-2007, 01:50 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-08-2007, 02:27 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_maxkicker - 11-08-2007, 02:32 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-08-2007, 04:56 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by RelinaXaroff - 11-08-2007, 05:46 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Tabion - 11-08-2007, 05:53 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_maxkicker - 11-08-2007, 07:42 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-08-2007, 12:35 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-08-2007, 12:36 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Rei - 11-08-2007, 02:33 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by Moss - 11-08-2007, 02:39 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Kano - 11-08-2007, 05:55 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-08-2007, 06:18 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-08-2007, 06:30 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Kano - 11-08-2007, 06:47 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_maxkicker - 11-08-2007, 09:02 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-08-2007, 09:14 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_maxkicker - 11-08-2007, 10:43 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-08-2007, 11:14 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-08-2007, 11:45 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Rei - 11-08-2007, 11:52 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-09-2007, 12:02 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Kano - 11-09-2007, 12:57 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-09-2007, 01:33 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Rei - 11-09-2007, 02:50 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-09-2007, 03:06 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Strife - 11-09-2007, 11:46 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-09-2007, 12:50 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-09-2007, 10:12 PM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-10-2007, 03:17 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-10-2007, 03:49 AM
***Magery skillgain*** - by imported_Smurtle - 11-10-2007, 04:00 AM

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