11-03-2007, 12:13 AM
Of course I had to use my prerogative! You did as well is why. Isn't that what "Debating" is? ;/
It wasn't an exaggerated number, honestly. It's an easily feasible, attainable, highly reachable number you first used. And, going from that "case point" of 2000 skills, I made the point that by giving anything to anyone starting fresh wouldn't flood the UO world with 2000+ skilled characters. So, by debate standards, your idea that you proposed, with the skill gain rate as it is, would almost make impossible for people to be running around with 2000 is skill points by the end of the next two weeks, even when a lot cannot leave their computer on all day long(which is what everyone is so scared of, when it obviously won't be the case). I've had my macro on for about ten hours now and hiding isn't GMed yet, it's at 80. Don't try to sell shit to a toilet.
I am right when I assume most want to PvP. Via RP or just straight "you're a ******, die" way. UO was built around the ability to fight others and delve into a realm of fantasy. Fighting, be it fantasy (RP) or "real" (PvPers) exists. To not prepare for that is stupidity and to assume everyone isn't here for that is also stupid.
Now, now. I know you're rolling your eyes and pissing in your seat because you can't wait to start slamming your keyboard with a violent urge to retort with a never ending generic barrage of internet sarcasm and formulated wit, but truthfully think about it. PvP is one of the foundations of UO. Plain and simple. You mine, you get attacked- egads you have to heal or fight off someone. That's PvP. Everyone is entitled to it, not everyone wants it, but everyone will do it. Even PvM is still in raw essence "player versus player." In this case, computer player.
So, what other demands besides maybe 10k for a new character and limited one account per household or IP, or perhaps just the crafts skills weren't transferred have I made? I've honestly, in numerous threads stated I promote economy over skills. I think you're the one who needs a debate lesson. I've only suggested and defended the thoughts that other's have PMed me or said to me. I'm personally fine with everything as it is, but a few have sought me as their "spokesman" if you will.
I thank you for trampling on this "political" procedure which was in fact just an attempt by Kano to get some actual gamemaster advice and hope to spur a nice mediation towards a better starting point for newer characters, and assuming everyone has an agenda and expects hand outs for everything.
Experience in debate is not needed here. It's a message board for the video game we play. You seem to have this ego about you. I understand the need to throw out random spurts of insult in a "debate" overcomes your rationale which you do have. By the way, insulting isn't debating! It's just petty and makes you look even more like a douche bag.
Man, I just ask someone to stop the bullshit, politely engage in a middle-ground attempt and they have to go and "attack." :badgrin:
I'm sorry your thread was ruined Kano. Lindenwood is from a different shard and expects different things. It's that cut and dry. Talk to the gamemasters or admins. He's here to argue why you shouldn't instead of collaborating on something positive.
It wasn't an exaggerated number, honestly. It's an easily feasible, attainable, highly reachable number you first used. And, going from that "case point" of 2000 skills, I made the point that by giving anything to anyone starting fresh wouldn't flood the UO world with 2000+ skilled characters. So, by debate standards, your idea that you proposed, with the skill gain rate as it is, would almost make impossible for people to be running around with 2000 is skill points by the end of the next two weeks, even when a lot cannot leave their computer on all day long(which is what everyone is so scared of, when it obviously won't be the case). I've had my macro on for about ten hours now and hiding isn't GMed yet, it's at 80. Don't try to sell shit to a toilet.
I am right when I assume most want to PvP. Via RP or just straight "you're a ******, die" way. UO was built around the ability to fight others and delve into a realm of fantasy. Fighting, be it fantasy (RP) or "real" (PvPers) exists. To not prepare for that is stupidity and to assume everyone isn't here for that is also stupid.
Now, now. I know you're rolling your eyes and pissing in your seat because you can't wait to start slamming your keyboard with a violent urge to retort with a never ending generic barrage of internet sarcasm and formulated wit, but truthfully think about it. PvP is one of the foundations of UO. Plain and simple. You mine, you get attacked- egads you have to heal or fight off someone. That's PvP. Everyone is entitled to it, not everyone wants it, but everyone will do it. Even PvM is still in raw essence "player versus player." In this case, computer player.
So, what other demands besides maybe 10k for a new character and limited one account per household or IP, or perhaps just the crafts skills weren't transferred have I made? I've honestly, in numerous threads stated I promote economy over skills. I think you're the one who needs a debate lesson. I've only suggested and defended the thoughts that other's have PMed me or said to me. I'm personally fine with everything as it is, but a few have sought me as their "spokesman" if you will.
I thank you for trampling on this "political" procedure which was in fact just an attempt by Kano to get some actual gamemaster advice and hope to spur a nice mediation towards a better starting point for newer characters, and assuming everyone has an agenda and expects hand outs for everything.
Experience in debate is not needed here. It's a message board for the video game we play. You seem to have this ego about you. I understand the need to throw out random spurts of insult in a "debate" overcomes your rationale which you do have. By the way, insulting isn't debating! It's just petty and makes you look even more like a douche bag.
Man, I just ask someone to stop the bullshit, politely engage in a middle-ground attempt and they have to go and "attack." :badgrin:
I'm sorry your thread was ruined Kano. Lindenwood is from a different shard and expects different things. It's that cut and dry. Talk to the gamemasters or admins. He's here to argue why you shouldn't instead of collaborating on something positive.