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A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap

Kano Wrote:Nice post Lindenwood. I feel like you agree with me on a lot of things, but you personally feel that I am a bit of a douche. Totally understandable. I really am sorry for coming off like that, but you and I have much different approaches to the game. I'm glad you are having a good time making what you consider good progress on your skills, with no macroing. Honestly, the gains you have gotten so far seem pretty impressive. However, you've noticed how my frustration w/ my progress has seethed into my posts. I'll try to keep it friendlier in the future.
Yes, we do agree on most of the things. I agree with almost everything except that the important combat skills should be easier.

Thank you for that good post.

BTW, Im glad to see that you didn't react to my comparison of you and a 16 year old Wink . It was kindof me being a dick to see how you'd react Tongue. In politics, the best reaction to mudslinging is no reaction! So, thumbs up to you!

kano Wrote:Don't know because I didn't play there, but it sounds like it probably was. I agree armor and weapons should be a bigger part of PvP, but magery is usually more effective. Magery is super important, and should be one of the most "achievable" skills. By achievable I mean having it not take weeks worth of unattended macroing, and not costing over 100k in regs (both are accurate figures with the current gain).
My point is actually based around the same thing, but taking the opposite approach. I think the really important skills should be the hardest to acheive (compared to combat skills, a least), just like in life (think of any useful skill and think of how much you could get paid by having that skill).

kano Wrote:Have I gone out pking? No. Yes, in theory i would be perfectly happy finding someone with the same skill total as me, and owning him... However, this is not reality. The time I run into someone with GM combats will outweigh however many times I run into a neophyte. For that reason, I've decided to macro my combats before getting to the real business. I know that a LOT of the more hardcore players feel this way.
Of course. And with the harder skill, you will be proud when you DO acheive those high skills, and know that you will be at a definite advantage over those who have them! I know that most your feelings spawn from some vets getting essentially free skills, and I dont disagree with you there.

However, I bet you will command much more respect from others when you earn your skills the "real" way. And, from the point of view from people who transfered their skills (granted, they were probably harder on INR than on almost any other emulator-based shard, but still), you wouldnt want the skillgain of newer players to be easier, when you yourself had to work very hard to get them.

kano Wrote:However, I have gone out hunting with a friend. Lets just say a liche > us. It just irks me to go hunting when I know how much easier it will be with the proper combat skill rating.
Hah! Well, maybe if you worked you way up it would end up a bit better, heh. Although, even with my skills, I now mostly hunt basic magical creatures (gargoyles, gazers, elementals, etc). With things like that, once you run out their mana, they are basically like fighting a troll that occasionally fights magic arrow. I typically run around healing as hard as I can for 30-60 seconds, then I run up on it with my melee weapon, and knock it down while I post on the forums :p .


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A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-30-2007, 01:39 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Tabion - 10-30-2007, 01:58 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by maka - 10-30-2007, 02:00 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Shadok - 10-30-2007, 02:28 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Elcid - 10-30-2007, 02:42 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_rainfall - 10-30-2007, 03:24 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Duke - 10-30-2007, 03:40 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-30-2007, 04:22 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-30-2007, 04:24 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Nostalgia - 10-30-2007, 04:26 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-30-2007, 04:28 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-30-2007, 04:34 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Love - 10-30-2007, 04:42 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-30-2007, 04:49 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-30-2007, 05:00 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Elcid - 10-30-2007, 05:02 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-30-2007, 05:06 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Skorpion - 10-30-2007, 05:07 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Duke - 10-30-2007, 05:11 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Skorpion - 10-30-2007, 05:15 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Elcid - 10-30-2007, 05:18 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-30-2007, 05:31 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Skorpion - 10-30-2007, 05:37 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Pots Talos - 10-30-2007, 06:00 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_BACoustic - 10-30-2007, 06:06 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Tabion - 10-30-2007, 06:33 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Brad - 10-30-2007, 10:30 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-30-2007, 11:10 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Strife - 10-30-2007, 11:47 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-30-2007, 11:51 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Shadok - 10-30-2007, 11:55 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Veno - 10-30-2007, 12:22 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by maka - 10-30-2007, 12:28 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Duke - 10-30-2007, 01:50 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Tabion - 10-30-2007, 02:07 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Skorpion - 10-30-2007, 03:36 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lerri - 10-30-2007, 04:16 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Nostalgia - 10-30-2007, 04:29 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Horacio - 10-30-2007, 05:21 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Skorpion - 10-30-2007, 05:24 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-30-2007, 06:50 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 10-30-2007, 06:51 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-30-2007, 06:53 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Shadok - 10-30-2007, 07:31 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Nemo - 10-30-2007, 07:46 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lerri - 10-30-2007, 08:26 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 10-30-2007, 08:56 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kitiara - 10-30-2007, 09:05 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Horacio - 10-30-2007, 09:22 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Nemo - 10-30-2007, 09:48 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Horacio - 10-30-2007, 09:51 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-30-2007, 11:01 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-30-2007, 11:16 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Neyk - 10-30-2007, 11:44 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_BACoustic - 10-30-2007, 11:58 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Shadok - 10-31-2007, 12:44 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Cole - 10-31-2007, 01:37 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-31-2007, 02:18 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_BACoustic - 10-31-2007, 03:23 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-31-2007, 05:18 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 10-31-2007, 06:20 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Silverwolf - 10-31-2007, 06:38 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by radish - 10-31-2007, 06:40 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Shadok - 10-31-2007, 10:37 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by Galens - 10-31-2007, 01:09 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 10-31-2007, 03:11 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Taran - 10-31-2007, 03:22 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-31-2007, 05:15 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Coldrake - 10-31-2007, 06:19 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-31-2007, 08:52 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Taran - 10-31-2007, 09:17 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Light - 10-31-2007, 09:20 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-31-2007, 09:20 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 10-31-2007, 09:22 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by naya - 10-31-2007, 10:17 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-31-2007, 10:38 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Tabion - 10-31-2007, 10:53 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_maxkicker - 10-31-2007, 10:56 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_maxkicker - 10-31-2007, 11:03 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_BACoustic - 10-31-2007, 11:11 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_maxkicker - 10-31-2007, 11:35 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 10-31-2007, 11:50 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_BACoustic - 10-31-2007, 11:55 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Rexal - 11-01-2007, 01:58 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_BACoustic - 11-01-2007, 03:02 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Elcid - 11-01-2007, 03:05 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by maka - 11-01-2007, 03:23 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Rexal - 11-01-2007, 03:43 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Nemo - 11-01-2007, 04:07 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-01-2007, 08:39 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-01-2007, 09:33 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lanfear - 11-01-2007, 09:37 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-01-2007, 09:40 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-01-2007, 09:42 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Rexal - 11-01-2007, 09:54 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 11-01-2007, 10:38 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-01-2007, 11:32 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 11-01-2007, 11:42 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-01-2007, 11:54 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-01-2007, 11:55 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-02-2007, 12:41 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Duke - 11-02-2007, 08:04 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kitiara - 11-02-2007, 01:03 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Tabion - 11-02-2007, 01:08 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Joe Black - 11-02-2007, 03:17 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Coldrake - 11-02-2007, 04:27 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-02-2007, 04:28 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-02-2007, 07:20 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-02-2007, 08:08 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-02-2007, 08:42 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Rexal - 11-02-2007, 09:20 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-02-2007, 09:35 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Christina Thorn - 11-02-2007, 09:46 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-02-2007, 11:26 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Nostalgia - 11-03-2007, 12:01 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-03-2007, 12:08 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 11-03-2007, 12:13 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 11-03-2007, 12:18 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 12:44 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 11-03-2007, 12:45 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-03-2007, 12:52 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 01:56 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Rexal - 11-03-2007, 02:29 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-03-2007, 08:36 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-03-2007, 08:48 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Cole - 11-03-2007, 04:34 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 05:10 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-03-2007, 07:28 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-03-2007, 07:47 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Slaquer - 11-03-2007, 10:10 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_BACoustic - 11-03-2007, 11:06 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Slaquer - 11-03-2007, 11:23 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Rexal - 11-03-2007, 11:41 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 11-04-2007, 08:01 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_G3TH - 11-04-2007, 11:23 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by Mako - 11-11-2007, 12:53 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Tananda - 11-15-2007, 07:00 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Keezichus - 11-15-2007, 07:13 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-15-2007, 07:20 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Tananda - 11-15-2007, 07:25 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by maka - 11-15-2007, 07:28 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Keezichus - 11-15-2007, 07:37 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Fast Fred - 11-15-2007, 10:41 PM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-16-2007, 12:44 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Keezichus - 11-16-2007, 01:27 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-16-2007, 01:48 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 11-16-2007, 02:01 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-16-2007, 02:07 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Smurtle - 11-16-2007, 02:11 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Elcid - 11-16-2007, 02:18 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-16-2007, 02:32 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-16-2007, 05:28 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-16-2007, 05:35 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Kano - 11-16-2007, 05:36 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Lindenwood - 11-16-2007, 05:39 AM
A theory on the vet -> noob fairness gap - by imported_Elcid - 11-16-2007, 05:40 AM

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