[imported_Kano]

Wowow, lots of replies.

Very nice post to read and I honestly agree with parts of your post even though I have 3653.1 skill points and rising.
I don't see anything happening about the majority of this, though I am sure more tweaks will be made to skill gains as data is collected. However, may I suggest that you try casting poison instead of night sight. This only takes nightshade and even though it takes a little more mana, it is more cost efficient.
I seriously don't find your post the least bit whiny at all. Discussing the economy of the shard is important and always needs to be taken into consideration. Though there are some huge problems with this. About half of the shard does not care about the economy and just wants their pockets filled with gold, banks filled with vanq weps, and scrolls.
You are most likely right about some people thinking you are complaining or about people disagreeing with a need for a stable economy. The thing is though, where will the line be drawn? Everyone will complain, threaten to leave, and argue indefinitely if skills were to be dropped (even a little) or gold was to be wiped even. Though I support the fact that something should be done, I think it is too late.

Ty for the respectful response. As to what you said, if someone wants 10 mil gold, vanqs, scrolls blah blah, they want this for personal reasons, not for economic reasons. As it is right now, the vets control the market because they have not only a good amount of starting gold, but more importantly all the skills they need to craft/hunt/pvp, whatever. What I am proposing is that we adjust the cost of regs and/or the skill gain so newer players can influence the economy as well.

How is it too late for something to be done? The shard is what, 3 days old? I have faith the Maka and the other devs will continue adjust the cost of items/skill gain until they feel they have proper settings.

I like your idea about lowering the costs in the begging, but that leads to a different problem, what happens when you are a vet?

I'm not sure if I understand your question, but IMO reagents are in the game to prevent noobs in their underwear from running around with a spellbook and casting on everyone. You die -> you lose your regs -> you can't cast. That's all they should be. The cost of regs should be low enough for them to be almost worthless aside from the fact you need them to cast and make pots. That said, I think that the vets have enough (or the ability to make enough) gold so that the cost of regs should never affect their bottom line so to speak.

about the magery gain i can calm you down, i bought 1800 pices of soulphous ashes (not that expensive, with your combat skill and some orc hunting you can get the money for that in a houer or two)
But with those regs i casted magic arrow on my self, gained a littel healing but a whole 2,5% in magery and my magery is in the mid 80's. And it don't take that long to cast 1800 magic arrows.
so no it's deffently not impossible to GM magery from scratch.
It won't cost a shit load of money, but still a reasonable ammount
It won't take months upon months

Like I said, the example I used was a very small sample size. When I get home I will try macroing again for an hour or so and see what happens. I know Maka has been adjusting the gains, so I could be very wrong about my previous example.

Alot of the vets as ive noticed have been quite generous to new players.... ive been giving llamas and whatever i can spare to whoever looks like they need it.

Once a few guilds get up and running as well there is even more help for you with them.

And im not saying "deal with it" i agree with your post but like u said what done is done im just offering some help

That is nice of you, and the generous vets, but as far as I'm concerned that doesn't have anything to do with the unbalanced economy and player base. In fact, the fact that you have so much that you can just give freebies to new players, FURTHER illustrates how wide the gap is between new players and vets.

There is meny meny meny shards to get pvp skils easy and there is not good economy or ground for rp.

I think when is harder to get skills more better guilds forming , you dont have to be vet to pvp ... 6 noobs can do much damage for vets ^^

i didint have to ever makro to joying pvp even its not my main game. I let magery example raise it own.. in 3 yers i get 98,6 if i remeber right.

No im start all over and im much happier now than IN2 or INR and i belive that who have skills allredy and vets will help new people alot to start and forming guilds and "meaning" for game.
If all get easy all skills and all have same like characters personal i think thats booring and nothing new than all other games. Like 2-3 yers from now have nothing to gain for skills.

Im maby too old *fart* when thinking that like 3d shotters game houses make them like all people can be good att it and cheats are easy to use to more people buying then than you have to practise it to be good. I realy belive that PvP players what just do what they are best.. and want to be skills fast to do it. still if you good att it you shod joy chalence.

Sory my bad english again -.- hard to write what like to say..still much work one it.

So you say easy pvp gains lead to a bad economy? Well what does STARTING WITH ALL GM SKILLS lead to? I mean lol. I can totally understand compensating the vets, but in reality, they really have it made. A newbied full spellbook + GM magery is just an absolute landslide of an advantage over someone who doesn't have one and won't be able to have one for a long time. Not to mention the GM crafts they start with.

Also, if you think I want to be gaining skills in 2-3 years, you're smokin good nugs. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm here to PvP. That's right, I'm here to kill you and take your stuff. My friends and I are coming to a realization that we are going to have to do a lot of 'Work' before we can start 'playing'. A game shouldn't be like that - and if that is the way it is, than everyone should start on the same playing field. I posted this in hopes of reform before more people become frustrated with the unbalancedness, and find a different shard.

Thanks for reading,
Kan0