[imported_Lindenwood]

I know what you mean, but on the other hand - that's how it works in life as well, right? And in the rest of UO. One day you're somebodys friend, the next day he or she could have decided to stab you in the back.
- Ztoke

However, in real life, you can't be someone's friend, then turn around and stab them in the back, and then be their friend again, can you?


I didn't read anything after this, but if Ztoke's views do actually represent how most XUO players think, then I have to say that it is indeed quite lame that everyone wants to fight but nobody wants to red.

Also, I am not sure how XUO worked, but

1) "Chaos" and "Order" are not synonymous with "good" and "evil." Order means that you prefer that everything be kept in Order, meaning you support law, governments, and peace. It does not mean you are a "good" person. In real life, Lawyers are Order in that they support law and government, but I have yet to meet one that I would describe as a "good" person. Conversely, "Chaos" means that you prefer to live by your own rules, and not by the law. However, you can have "good"-hearted person that is chaotic, like in real life how there may be some nasty thugs who, if you got to know them, are genuinely caring people. Lastly, because Chaotic people live by their own rules and creeds, they are not bound by any law that may state that they cannot kill any given "type" of people, so they can kill both other Chaotic people and also people who serve for Order.

2) On IN, there were lots of things to do as a Red. I had a few hundred KCs by the time I quit, but there was always stuff to do and always people to fight.

3) Also, on IN, it sounds like people in general had quite a bit bigger balls than the people you describe from XUO. Few order would sit around in guards, and most had the courage to go out and fight Chaotic people (most of which were red). If an order or group of Order would constantly hide behind the guards, they would get hounded by both Chaos (for being pussies) and Order (for embarassing the rest of the Order guilds by being pussies) until they made some adjustments.

I keep hearing all this about how XUO players are so crazy and evil and hardcore PVPers, but it is starting to sound like more of a front, like kids who act tough in front of their friends, than real "badassness."