[sm0ke]

Just saying, if good loot isn't added to the server, ganks will still be boring. The whole point of killing people is to take their loot, so how come whenever someone drops the first thing people take are mana pots and scrolls? It's because there's no such thing as good items here. The only 'good' items are ridiculously hard to craft and under powered for their cost, therefore nobody uses them to fight.

If you want to see this PvP become fun, ITEMS need to be added which give you PvP advantages... That's all there is to it.
This wouldn't ever give rich players an edge, because it's still quite possible to gank someone who is wearing expensive loot. If someone is wearing expensive loot, that actually gives more incentive for people to want to drop that person...

I don't know about you but I kill people to kill people, once someone drops you will never see me loot ever i'll go on the next guy and check out the bodies when everyone leaves. Killing someone is much more satisfying then having loot lmfao..

[Siren]

This thread is a hot mess.

[Habibi Jones]

I don't loot either, but the reason is because there isn't shit to loot. I can guarantee you that if you dropped me while I was wearing an item worth 100k, you would be trying your hardest to loot that item from my body. That's the entire reason for the suggestion; to make PvP more fun/rewarding and less of a gold-sink/monotonous (even the winners are down resources after a fight). There's a reason why you have to come on the forums and ***** about people not fighting you, or that they invis recall away... It's because there's absolutely no gain even if they were to beat you... It's not even worth the "risk" for most people because there is no payout... Oh yay! 10 mana pots. I have plenty of items/resources, but most players don't have as much as I do and this is exactly why they don't want to go out and fight... There is absolutely nothing to gain from it, that's why you will only end up fighting people that like to fight just as much as you do. Until the average player is given incentive to team up and go out to kill other players (reward) then you probably won't see many people eager to fight you. Plain and simple. Use your brain and try to think about things before you just poop in the text box and hit the send button.

[sm0ke]

I don't loot either, but the reason is because there isn't shit to loot. I can guarantee you that if you dropped me while I was wearing an item worth 100k, you would be trying your hardest to loot that item from my body. That's the entire reason for the suggestion; to make PvP more fun/rewarding and less of a gold-sink/monotonous (even the winners are down resources after a fight). There's a reason why you have to come on the forums and ***** about people not fighting you, or that they invis recall away... It's because there's absolutely no gain even if they were to beat you... It's not even worth the "risk" for most people because there is no payout... Oh yay! 10 mana pots. I have plenty of items/resources, but most players don't have as much as I do and this is exactly why they don't want to go out and fight... There is absolutely nothing to gain from it, that's why you will only end up fighting people that like to fight just as much as you do. Until the average player is given incentive to team up and go out to kill other players (reward) then you probably won't see many people eager to fight you. Plain and simple. Use your brain and try to think about things before you just poop in the text box and hit the send button.

Why are you trying to trash talk? No I don't care about items the only reason I would go loot is if i didn't have enough resources or something. Getting weapons or armor isn't anything and the reason why you don't appreciate scrolls and pots is because of the poison scroll cash out bug that was recently fixed. That must have been going on for as long as the shard has been up which by the looks of your playing time (200 days) you pretty much destroyed. Items may have no value you to you but it does to other people. My greatest valued items are scrolls and pots because with them you can kill anyone with them rather than some silly armor or weapon. Ganking is about making the other people you've killed furious and angry not that you've gotten their loot. If you want loot I suggest you start hunting or mining for those things, sure it could make people want to kill you more for what you're wearing but it should never be the way your describing it.

There's no reason to insult me because we have different opinions because your the type of person who likes getting loot and will stand there when there's a 4v4 going on when you drop someone and I'm the type of person when killing a player I enjoy it and just continue killing the next player around me..

EDIT: Ofc ganking is a gold sink, it's meant to have fun not to gain resources. Like I've stated go hunting or mining if you are trying to gain off players in ganking it won't happen you can't force people what to carry and you can't force people to 1v1 outside in the world if they choose not too. It's simply just to have fun, that's why when people recall or invis pot it doesn't make any sense their running away from the fun.

This is how arguments start it was really uncalled for cheap shot you just did there, keep it civil.

[Habibi Jones]

Ganking is about making the other people you've killed furious and angry not that you've gotten their loot

Drown. You have no idea what you're talking about... None. Just by saying this you have proven that you are an absolute numbskull. Want to know why? That quote right there proves that every single suggestion/opinion you've ever had was aimed at promoting this kind of 'PvP'.
You, sir, are a tool.

[sm0ke]

Drown. You have no idea what you're talking about... None. Just by saying this you have proven that you are an absolute numbskull. Want to know why? That quote right there proves that every single suggestion/opinion you've ever had was aimed at promoting this kind of 'PvP'.
You, sir, are a tool.

I mean at this point when you don't get your way you just act like a child and call people names when you can't back up any proven or good points. Any good PvPer will say the same.

Keep insulting me though if does you good and helps you breath.

Anyways I'll let Taran deal with you as hes already warned us to stop in many thread yet your the one doing all the provoking now I won't take part in this.

[Lags]

I mean at this point when you don't get your way you just act like a child and call people names when you can't back up any proven or good points. Any good PvPer will say the same.

Keep insulting me though if does you good and helps you breath.

Anyways I'll let Taran deal with you as hes already warned us to stop in many thread yet your the one doing all the provoking now I won't take part in this.

I'll settle this. You're both a$$holes, except Habibi.

[Siren]

My thread lock senses are tingling...

[Aki Hiro]

I would like to hear from 2 ex-fizzle-players that enjoy this kind of pvp. I find it hard to believe its like a chess player who switches to checkers..

Hoax, i'm a ex-fizzle-pvp-player. I started on Land of Darkness long time ago and i also played on R.I.P and they were both Fizzle shards. And now i enjoy a lot more this kind of pvp.

I've seen a lot of people around the shard and forum who are looking for fizzle pvp and I was hoping that some of them by now found a proper uo shard that has everything in-uo has but with the superior kind of pvp.

To that, i'm just saying that YOU should give a shot to this pvp instead of trying to push everyone in the direction that you want. You are talking about everyone has to try it, we i played a lot with it and its fun. But this pvp is a lot more fun. Now it's your turn to try it for a couple of months. Learn it, practice it, and understand it. A good UO player shouldn't have difficulties to switch from gameplay. That's my point of view!

[Habibi Jones]

I mean at this point when you don't get your way you just act like a child and call people names when you can't back up any proven or good points. Any good PvPer will say the same.

You lack the skills required to get a job which will pay you enough to support yourself, and you demonstrate it with every sentence you type. That is why I insult you, because you are absolutely subjective in everything and you don't have the mental capacity to think outside of your own head, let alone preach what you think is best for the server.

"PvP is about making people furious/angry"
-Depth

[Ramza]

Man these two cant be in the same thread or they just thrash each other.

[Loki]

It's all foreplay I reckon...