[imported_Lederoil]

Also, if I want to duel Gang or Tech but there is no 1k stone and I am forced to pay 5k or more, then not only am I going to die in 3 seconds I am also going to loose 5k or more gold.

I agree with that, and I think that's the case for many new comers aswell as old players. Why would I chose to duel Tech or Gang-bang for 5k when I'm certain I will lose?

The 1k duel stone should stay, it's more of a "just for fun" and a great way for new players to learn the PVP. Like smoke said, you'll problably not make any profit even if you win, but that's not the point either.

I doubt people would start using the 5k stone more if you remove the 1k, actually I just think the dueling would become even less popular if you did that.

no taran said theres over 10 people with 1 million or more whats 5k?

How many of these PVPs? It's honestly getting very tedious to read your worthless and stupid arguments over and over.

5k is much money for most of the people. Remember 5k is one single duel that lasts just a couple of minutes, only four duels is 20k, and that is for sure a lot of money for a newcomer to lose in duels with a PVP he can't handle yet.

I say stop trying making it harder to learn the PVP. It' so insanly stupid that you're crying over how you want more gank, and still you keep on giving suggestion how to make it more costly to train PVP.

The 1k stone is not even connected to the ladder, if you're dueling for money, just don't use it.

Well, I think rather than get rid of the 1k stone make it cheaper.

Word. Players still have to buy their regs and scrolls, and that should be enough if you're looking to only train.

[imported_Ryuuku]

The 1k stone is the best thing, make people waste resource without get profit, so they have to buy more after and it help the economy.

If make the stone cheaper more people will go fight wasting more resource and so on.

[imported_LudaKrishna]

People then get dependent on the 1K stone though. How do you think pvpers made money before? How do you think we all learnt the pvp? People have to take more risks, there's too much safe stuff/tons of blues here.

You also then get people like Xiyak and Erendis who only do 1K duels....>_> Anyways if it's for newcomers then Eru said a skillcap should be made for it, which could be a limit on their skill level. For everyone else they'd have to duel 5K and higher.

btw Papa Smurf u have money dude (I've seen ur static) and u know the pvp a bit so there's no real reason to duel 1K.

[imported_MadMan]

at first i was against having the 1k stone but the more i thought about it i wouldnt really mind having it there. Like its already been said it helps newcomers... and not just that.. for old players who would like to get unrusty etc etc could duel on it for a little instead of dueling outside since its a smaller place it would be better to duel there instead... helps more instead of having a huge space and you never get hit. also if a player is dueling at 1k stones it usually means hes practicing.. removing that stone wouldnt make him start dueling at 5ks+ because he wants practice.. not try to make money dueling yet. once the person feels hes ready regardless of having the 1k stone there or not he will move up to a higher risk stone.

[imported_Hiroshima]

Let them practice on 1k stone then rape you in 50k stone !

This shouldnt be removed, seriously.

[smoke]

I agree with that, and I think that's the case for many new comers aswell as old players. Why would I chose to duel Tech or Gang-bang for 5k when I'm certain I will lose?

The 1k duel stone should stay, it's more of a "just for fun" and a great way for new players to learn the PVP. Like smoke said, you'll problably not make any profit even if you win, but that's not the point either.

I doubt people would start using the 5k stone more if you remove the 1k, actually I just think the dueling would become even less popular if you did that.



How many of these PVPs? It's honestly getting very tedious to read your worthless and stupid arguments over and over.

5k is much money for most of the people. Remember 5k is one single duel that lasts just a couple of minutes, only four duels is 20k, and that is for sure a lot of money for a newcomer to lose in duels with a PVP he can't handle yet.

I say stop trying making it harder to learn the PVP. It' so insanly stupid that you're crying over how you want more gank, and still you keep on giving suggestion how to make it more costly to train PVP.

The 1k stone is not even connected to the ladder, if you're dueling for money, just don't use it.



Word. Players still have to buy their regs and scrolls, and that should be enough if you're looking to only train.

I'm litterly laughing falling out of my chair at the moment, you say these things like you even use the stones, the only people who have been using the stones are sandra erendis xyiak and sky the more advanced pvpers like me mito and gang duel for more money because its stupid we waste all our resources there all the time even 5k its nothing, so before you call this useless why dont you even friggin use the stones before you start an arguement? Dueling for 900 gp is basically nothing and PvP is a skill too you guys need to stop making exuses for things you don't even use.

stop making it harder to learn the pvp? you made spam more visable and there were a few more adjustments, PvP isn't hard to learn and it's like a skill just like inscription it costs money to learn PvP i've lost over 1-2 mil to juanin dueling in the past on XUO whats so different about this now? I should say stop trying to make PvP easier to learn theres even PvP school that hate hosts sometime I mean come on this is just ridiculous.

Well, I think rather than get rid of the 1k stone make it cheaper. New players and players such as myself that dont have a ton of cash but would like to duel, enjoy the 1k stone. Besides its not hurting anything, its not like its attached to the ladder. I think rather than get rid of the stone make it cheaper then to make Tech happy just add a stone for 500k. Everyones happy Also, if I want to duel Gang or Tech but there is no 1k stone and I am forced to pay 5k or more, then not only am I going to die in 3 seconds I am also going to loose 5k or more gold.

yeah like thats really going to happen, you sure would duel me or gang no one duels us for money ever so why would you all of a sudden jump in now? Btw you do have money, you always complain you don't yet you have over 14 tubs and tons of ingots your vendor makes tons of money. Stop acting poor when you're not.

The 1k stone is the best thing, make people waste resource without get profit, so they have to buy more after and it help the economy.

If make the stone cheaper more people will go fight wasting more resource and so on.

PvP is a skill too it shouldn't be learned cheap you can win tours and actually make money off tours and duel stones. Which means you don't even have to hunt thats the advantages at being a PvPer. It's not right too lose more than you gain in the duel stones even when winning lol...

Let them practice on 1k stone then rape you in 50k stone !

This shouldnt be removed, seriously.

Let who pratice? no one is ever dueling and it's a waste of supplies, you guys don't even bother dueling you don't give it a chance at all and now you want to keep this stone when it makes people lose more than they actually gain..

[imported_Taran]

Stay on topic!

[smoke]

new bug i found when someone attacks you with a weapon it automatically puts you in war mode maybe client side don't know

@Epistemology reporting you to taran for spamming

[imported_Taran]

Not really on topic but yeah, I had to add that for now to get rid of another bug where you wouldnt attack back automatically.

[imported_Epistemology]

-Add a scroll transformer in pits
-Allow people to cast while using the pits rune (so that people can cast refelect etc while going to pits)
-When casting while using the pits rune if you are not finished your spell allow it to inturropt your pits rune so that you need to re step on the pits rune to go to pits (basically like a fizzle)
-Change pits delay too 3 seconds


If you have anything to add post it here or you can post your opinion on what i've posted

What is the reasoning behind the spell casting/interrupting of the pits rune?

I really am curious.

[imported_LudaKrishna]

for ganks and when ppl try to run onto pits and use reflect so they dont get interrupted.

[smoke]

What is the reasoning behind the spell casting/interrupting of the pits rune?

I really am curious.

It's better for ganks you can cast reflect while going to pits

Not really on topic but yeah, I had to add that for now to get rid of another bug where you wouldnt attack back automatically.

ah okay, so it will be fixed later on I suppose? =]