12-16-2007, 02:00 PM
My opinions on the server have changed (not trying to say my opinions are the ones that mattered, etc etc, just giving new insights after having more experience and time to experience new things):
I'm starting to think that the economy is generally not as shaky as I thought it was before. I think the income is fine with hunting, if you have provocation/peacemaking hehe... Although, I do still stand strong on one simple aspect of it that may still need to be considered: "More Crap!"
(Here's a reference to my post JIC [just in case])
http://www.in-x.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2687&page=5
I basically made the point that crap brings circulation of money and it brings lack of boredom. Two big things things you need to keep a server alive are: Things to do that don't end (like collecting baseball cards, for ex), and things to expand on (new creative, original things to do).
Now, people don't necessarily need new things even, as long as what they are occupied with is never ended and fun, like PvP/RP. But what more crap does is bring in new things and new interests, that generally are never-ending like PvP, and they usually don't require much effort to obtain, unless you are the one selling of course.
So I stick to this logic, more crap = less boredom and the use of all the money you end up with after a year or two on a shard, but I've changed a lot of my opinions on the actual current economic "situation" the shard is in. Actually, the "fixes" for the economy I suggested, I still stick to because I still feel they are still decent ideas in general. Anyway:
Many people feel that there is too much income, lots think that there is too little. I think that the majority of the people that think it is too low simply think so because they aren't putting much effort or research into actually finding out if it is, and just want things handed to them (though I'm not saying all are, I'm saying that it may probably be a good portion of these people. I think the people that think it is too high may be the observers of the people that are working their asses off to get resources/gold and have more than most people.
Soo I have to say this:
While using provocation/peacemaking and not much else (if anything else more than a bow), I can hunt dragons for about 30 minutes to an hour and acquire roughly 15-20k (after selling jewels and everything). Ok so I hunt about twice a day (2 sessions of 30 minutes to an hour) and get about 25-30k (I spend on regs and things as I go), and I skip a few days of hunting every now and then (I only end up hunting maybe 2-3 times a week). So I make about 75k a week on the surface.
Well, underneath, I spend like 10k a night on regs to macro...So right now I'm basically making nothing, keeping myself steady (If I want to get anywhere with skills anytime soon). SO this means it will take a while to start getting enough money to just PvP whenever and go buy things I need for whatever reasons (rides, pots, scrolls, arrows/bolts, armor, weps, bottles, regs, bandages, ETC), therefore, PvP is at a huge low for me because I'm trying to get skills so I can craft my own resources instead of having to buy too much from others. And this is the case with a quite a portion of people from the server.
And therefore, this causes some major so-called "problems" with the server:
-People start to think that the player base is inactive simply because they are trying to focus on skill gain for a few more weeks.
-People think that the economy is major-fckd simply because a lot of people are spending on vendors (mostly regs), or they are not trying to get money because they don't need it yet for the skills they are training (which is how I was when I was training prov/peacing; I didn't need it).
So basically, like i've said 3 times today (this morning), in 2 or 3 other posts, chill the hell out! The server is OH-KAY...
. At most, it needs some minor tweaks every now and then when it is realized that something is a little off (Soon, we'll need more crap, like more stang spawns and custom weps
). But for now, people are just trying to get started...So like I said, try to chill out and stop taking things from the surface and going "OMFG it's all snow!" when there's plenty of solid ground underneath...
I'm starting to think that the economy is generally not as shaky as I thought it was before. I think the income is fine with hunting, if you have provocation/peacemaking hehe... Although, I do still stand strong on one simple aspect of it that may still need to be considered: "More Crap!"
(Here's a reference to my post JIC [just in case])
http://www.in-x.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2687&page=5
I basically made the point that crap brings circulation of money and it brings lack of boredom. Two big things things you need to keep a server alive are: Things to do that don't end (like collecting baseball cards, for ex), and things to expand on (new creative, original things to do).
Now, people don't necessarily need new things even, as long as what they are occupied with is never ended and fun, like PvP/RP. But what more crap does is bring in new things and new interests, that generally are never-ending like PvP, and they usually don't require much effort to obtain, unless you are the one selling of course.
So I stick to this logic, more crap = less boredom and the use of all the money you end up with after a year or two on a shard, but I've changed a lot of my opinions on the actual current economic "situation" the shard is in. Actually, the "fixes" for the economy I suggested, I still stick to because I still feel they are still decent ideas in general. Anyway:
Many people feel that there is too much income, lots think that there is too little. I think that the majority of the people that think it is too low simply think so because they aren't putting much effort or research into actually finding out if it is, and just want things handed to them (though I'm not saying all are, I'm saying that it may probably be a good portion of these people. I think the people that think it is too high may be the observers of the people that are working their asses off to get resources/gold and have more than most people.
Soo I have to say this:
While using provocation/peacemaking and not much else (if anything else more than a bow), I can hunt dragons for about 30 minutes to an hour and acquire roughly 15-20k (after selling jewels and everything). Ok so I hunt about twice a day (2 sessions of 30 minutes to an hour) and get about 25-30k (I spend on regs and things as I go), and I skip a few days of hunting every now and then (I only end up hunting maybe 2-3 times a week). So I make about 75k a week on the surface.
Well, underneath, I spend like 10k a night on regs to macro...So right now I'm basically making nothing, keeping myself steady (If I want to get anywhere with skills anytime soon). SO this means it will take a while to start getting enough money to just PvP whenever and go buy things I need for whatever reasons (rides, pots, scrolls, arrows/bolts, armor, weps, bottles, regs, bandages, ETC), therefore, PvP is at a huge low for me because I'm trying to get skills so I can craft my own resources instead of having to buy too much from others. And this is the case with a quite a portion of people from the server.
And therefore, this causes some major so-called "problems" with the server:
-People start to think that the player base is inactive simply because they are trying to focus on skill gain for a few more weeks.
-People think that the economy is major-fckd simply because a lot of people are spending on vendors (mostly regs), or they are not trying to get money because they don't need it yet for the skills they are training (which is how I was when I was training prov/peacing; I didn't need it).
So basically, like i've said 3 times today (this morning), in 2 or 3 other posts, chill the hell out! The server is OH-KAY...
. At most, it needs some minor tweaks every now and then when it is realized that something is a little off (Soon, we'll need more crap, like more stang spawns and custom weps
). But for now, people are just trying to get started...So like I said, try to chill out and stop taking things from the surface and going "OMFG it's all snow!" when there's plenty of solid ground underneath...
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