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How to improve the shard - imported_Veno - 07-11-2008
Well there are a few things that have mostly kept me away from IN:X.
The main one is that UO doesnt offer much fun to me anymore, basically just bored with it.
Apart from that i said straight out that the combat is fine if the spamming is completely removed.
Houses need to have bank access.
Injection(custom scripting in general) should be illegal. This has ruined the gathering part of the economy and thereby the excitement of combat where you run a real risk of loosing high value items when fighting.
And the general feel should be much more encouraging to roleplay. Xtreme monsters and all the crappy renamed items and people rediculous player names and guild names should be removed. Crap talk, 1337 speak, any other languege than english should also be illegal - we had that on old IN. People should be forced to make an effort in writing properly ingame.
Plenty more small things but fix this and do a complete item wipe. Then it might be fun to start playing more actively
How to improve the shard - imported_Taran - 07-11-2008
Veno Wrote:Apart from that i said straight out that the combat is fine if the spamming is completely removed.Yeah, we had a script that prevented massive spamming of powerwords that never worked. I'd like to get that working again. Completely remove the powerwords would mess up the PvP though. I thought about removing powerwords completely but I think that will cause other problems.
Quote:Houses need to have bank access.You think guildbanks would be enough? That only guilds can have bank boxes I mean.
Quote:Injection(custom scripting in general) should be illegal. This has ruined the gathering part of the economy and thereby the excitement of combat where you run a real risk of loosing high value items when fighting.Well, we would have to disallow pretty much any 3rd party program for that. I think that's a bit drastic, people don't want to mine manually anymore, UO is too old for that.[/quote]
Quote:And the general feel should be much more encouraging to roleplay. Xtreme monsters and all the crappy renamed items and people rediculous player names and guild names should be removed. Crap talk, 1337 speak, any other languege than english should also be illegal - we had that on old IN. People should be forced to make an effort in writing properly ingame.Well, Xtreme isn't that bad, is it? It was a part of XUO's legacy, that's why we kept it. Just like Imagine Nation was a part of IN's legacy.
We rename all players with l33t names, I don't know why guilds are allowed to have l33t names actually. I'll look into that.
I dislike crap talk and l33t talk very much and I have for long wanted to become more strict about this. Problem is that we would need some players to set good examples or people simply will not follow the rules and we will end up jailing the whole shard.
Also, many players don't know English so it would be quite hard for them to speak English.
Quote:Plenty more small things but fix this and do a complete item wipe. Then it might be fun to start playing more activelyComplete item wipe is not going to happen. Too many players spent too much time gathering their items.
Anyway, I'm all open for suggestions. I really do want to change the shard for the better and possibly get some old IN players back.
How to improve the shard - imported_Mephisto - 07-14-2008
*cough* Bring back blue bears and trainable creatures
*cough*
How to improve the shard - imported_Veno - 07-14-2008
Taran Wrote:Yeah, we had a script that prevented massive spamming of powerwords that never worked. I'd like to get that working again. Completely remove the powerwords would mess up the PvP though. I thought about removing powerwords completely but I think that will cause other problems.Dont be so inflexible about that damn combat system. Remove the fake powerwords!
Everything else that was supposed to stay as it was thru the merge has been changed so why is it so important to keep an annoying and lame pvp "tactic"?
Taran Wrote:You think guildbanks would be enough? That only guilds can have bank boxes I mean.No.
Boxes would be fine but anyone would have to be able to buy them and at a fairly low price. 50k would be max. If you feel that it makes it too easy to hide all your good stuff in there then set a weight and item limit on bank boxes.
Side question here, can locked boxes be picked? If they can that should be disabled so that they are safe storage but in a fixed position. Would be good along with a bank limit i think
Taran Wrote:Well, we would have to disallow pretty much any 3rd party program for that. I think that's a bit drastic, people don't want to mine manually anymore, UO is too old for that.Well razor cant really do anything on its own. You have to show it what to do first. I like that type of helping program. But yeah i see why they are allowed. I just dont like it.
Taran Wrote:Well, Xtreme isn't that bad, is it? It was a part of XUO's legacy, that's why we kept it. Just like Imagine Nation was a part of IN's legacy.I think Xtreme is horrible. But i said that even before they were made so
We rename all players with l33t names, I don't know why guilds are allowed to have l33t names actually. I'll look into that.
Taran Wrote:I dislike crap talk and l33t talk very much and I have for long wanted to become more strict about this. Problem is that we would need some players to set good examples or people simply will not follow the rules and we will end up jailing the whole shard.Internet should have just 1 rule. Everything has to be in english.
Also, many players don't know English so it would be quite hard for them to speak English.
Taran Wrote:Complete item wipe is not going to happen. Too many players spent too much time gathering their items.Myself included. Wasnt to fond of it anyway :p
How to improve the shard - imported_Hiroshima - 07-14-2008
I think you are talking how to change the server to your likes. This is not what ppl demand.!
This is what YOU demand!
So we better stick to popular demands.
How to improve the shard - imported_Tabion - 07-14-2008
I have to say that I agree with the powerwords junk. This has kept me away from pvp and inevitably getting ganked like I used to, lol. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of the scrolls and I would personally love it if more scrolls had special timings and effects like lightning and fs but I don't want to ignore a billion words and have to listen and watch for specific things. Correct me if I am wrong but I think someone said thats how you tell if someone is using a scroll. The thing is, I like to listen to music when I pvp and I really don't have the best eyesight to catch little movements and such. So really I would love it if I didn't have to worry about that and could just pvp normally. I know its not going to change and I don't know why I am ranting about this though.
Back on topic, houses/house signs having bank access... well this was discussed a while back and people said crap like carebear and whatnot. I personally loved banking from a sign, especially when you had to be outside your house to use it. Many times in the past I have caught people moving resources from their bank into their house via the house sign. Of course I don't think this will be changed and with a low player base it really is more of a benefit then a risk.
Third party programs... well I never used injection before, mainly because back in the day it was always referred to as a cheat/illegal. I don't know why that changed, I guess RunUO has better security against it or something.
As for roleplay, well this is something I want to see more then anything else. The problem is, no matter what the staff does, what good will it do? RPing falls on the players too. Players need to contribute and build the shards story/history as much or more then the staff. Even if there was daily rp events and such, if only the real rpers showed up... how many would that be, 6? I mean most people "rping" now do it for a special look, I have seen only 2 players since INX opened that take the rp serious. I tried but couldn't have fun doing so with all the ignorant children running around needing a hug. The Xtreme monsters bothered me too at first but really when I thought about it I realized it shouldn't bother me in the least. I mean, my character doesnt see names above creatures and players so I would have to assume that an Xtreme dragon is just some weird nickname for a godlike dragon.
Anyways before I get all off topic as usual, I just want to say that if you want to see changes you have to fight for them in game too. It can't just be done through the forums telling the staff how things should be. Well at least with the RP related stuff.
How to improve the shard - imported_Veno - 07-14-2008
Kepi Wrote:I think you are talking how to change the server to your likes. This is not what ppl demand.!
This is what YOU demand!
So we better stick to popular demands.
I demand nothing at all.
I say what bothers me about this shard thats all. And suggest what should be added. I do not know what "ppl" want.
If you have something that you would like to see then this is the place to suggest it. No one says it has to be added its just for ideas
How to improve the shard - imported_Hiroshima - 07-15-2008
Oh ok, i understood it wrong
!Sorry for everything.
How to improve the shard - imported_Fable - 07-15-2008
but for me it seems like u hate or dislike all that has to do with xtreme, as u said, u never liked xtreme from the begining. clarify this pls cause i think ive misunderstood?
How to improve the shard - imported_Veno - 07-15-2008
Fable Wrote:but for me it seems like u hate or dislike all that has to do with xtreme, as u said, u never liked xtreme from the begining. clarify this pls cause i think ive misunderstood?
I dislike the name. The idea of harder monsters with better loot is very nice. I just personally think that the names should be different. Its prolly not going to change and in any case, as Tabion says, characters cant really see the monsters name above their heads.
How to improve the shard - imported_Tiesto - 07-15-2008
House bank is just a lazy idea that will keep people on their house all the time, its a bad idea.
How to improve the shard - imported_PedroDiLara - 07-15-2008
I agree with Tabion when he says that rp is missing... Xtreme Dragon is weird, some thing like Supreme Dragon, Ancient Dragon... would be nicer.
I remember when I played INR, some RP was working like rpguild "Vampires" really looked dread to me, now they're normal players...
In my opinion, when the shards merged, the staff gave all atention to XUO things and forgot the thing that I most liked on IN: the imagination to be more than just another player macroing.