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Taran, Maka, and the rest of the staff - imported_Tabion - 12-03-2007
I swear guys, I feel sorry for you all. All these people do is ***** and complain about every little thing they can find... regardless if it has been mentioned 30 times already or not.
So yeah, you guys are busy and seemingly short-handed but you do a great job with the time you do have.
As for people stressing over the playerbase and it dwindling down... maybe we could get some new players if there wasn't so many complaints on the forums, especially in the general section. Try to keep complaints in the suggestions area or something. Oh and there is this awesome search feature too, it lets you see if a topic was already created or discussed elsewhere! Who woulda thought such a feature existed?!
Seriously though, you people need to calm down. They know what they are doing and by now they have an understanding on what needs fixing or tweaking. If you people must continually post the same crap, make it useful. I have seen a good 20 mentions on the crafts being messed up and how they need to be fixed... but nobody really makes sound explanations as to how (minus like two people).
So this is what everyone that really wants something fixed should do... make a chart, a list, or something along those lines. It would be much more constructive and if the staff agrees with that suggestion it would be much simpler to take care of with exact figures. Help fix the problems and they will get fixed much quicker.
Right now I am working on a loot chart, basically hunting new places each day and making note of the drops. This way monsters can easily be compared by their difficulty and loot and be balanced a little better. It would be awesome if someone could make a chart for a crafting skill, say carpentry, and suggest what items should sell for and what they go for now.
I think this would be really helpful and cuts the work the staff has to do down a bit.
Anyways, I am just saying if you must complain do it constructively. The staff is doing a great job I think, considering they have lives, and we shouldn't focus all our forum time on dragging them down and acting like we aren't grateful.
Taran, Maka, and the rest of the staff - imported_Tiesto - 12-03-2007
Quote:Right now I am working on a loot chart, basically hunting new places each day and making note of the drops. This way monsters can easily be compared by their difficulty and loot and be balanced a little better. It would be awesome if someone could make a chart for a crafting skill, say carpentry, and suggest what items should sell for and what they go for now.
Nice! that could be very helpfull for uss thanks for your effort
Taran, Maka, and the rest of the staff - imported_Naitsir - 12-03-2007
I concur. I'll try figuring out something myself when I get the necessary skills up.
Taran, Maka, and the rest of the staff - imported_Duke - 12-03-2007
*note X tabions loot chart by 5
Taran, Maka, and the rest of the staff - imported_Smurtle - 12-03-2007
Tabion Wrote:I swear guys, I feel sorry for you all. All these people do is ***** and complain about every little thing they can find... regardless if it has been mentioned 30 times already or not.
So yeah, you guys are busy and seemingly short-handed but you do a great job with the time you do have.
As for people stressing over the playerbase and it dwindling down... maybe we could get some new players if there wasn't so many complaints on the forums, especially in the general section. Try to keep complaints in the suggestions area or something. Oh and there is this awesome search feature too, it lets you see if a topic was already created or discussed elsewhere! Who woulda thought such a feature existed?!
Seriously though, you people need to calm down. They know what they are doing and by now they have an understanding on what needs fixing or tweaking. If you people must continually post the same crap, make it useful. I have seen a good 20 mentions on the crafts being messed up and how they need to be fixed... but nobody really makes sound explanations as to how (minus like two people).
So this is what everyone that really wants something fixed should do... make a chart, a list, or something along those lines. It would be much more constructive and if the staff agrees with that suggestion it would be much simpler to take care of with exact figures. Help fix the problems and they will get fixed much quicker.
Right now I am working on a loot chart, basically hunting new places each day and making note of the drops. This way monsters can easily be compared by their difficulty and loot and be balanced a little better. It would be awesome if someone could make a chart for a crafting skill, say carpentry, and suggest what items should sell for and what they go for now.
I think this would be really helpful and cuts the work the staff has to do down a bit.
Anyways, I am just saying if you must complain do it constructively. The staff is doing a great job I think, considering they have lives, and we shouldn't focus all our forum time on dragging them down and acting like we aren't grateful.
I've already made several charts for the crafting skills. The point is, they're not going to influence the economy nor will they ever now. From logging and smithing for hours over a span of few days, the conclusion is it's just not worth it to do it. Nor is it worth it to purchase materials to do it. The only reason is self-supply and that's about it.
Taran, Maka, and the rest of the staff - imported_Cole - 12-03-2007
Smurtle Wrote:I've already made several charts for the crafting skills. The point is, they're not going to influence the economy nor will they ever now. From logging and smithing for hours over a span of few days, the conclusion is it's just not worth it to do it. Nor is it worth it to purchase materials to do it. The only reason is self-supply and that's about it.
I think it may eventually become worth it to purchase from other players, but in the case of tailoring if you're talking about buying bolts and crafting stuff for profit...I don't see any reason why that should be possible before you've GMed it (and those items sell for higher). Even then, the profit should be very minimal from buying bolts
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More importantly, i really agree with you Tabion. There's simply too much posted material around making changes to the shard. Many people reiterate others' words to make their issue seem more pressing, but we really don't need any more pressing issues. The staff know what needs to be changed, and pestering them about it, and pestering them for not responding to your pestering, is far from helping.
What can we do? Maybe it would be nice if no suggestions whatsoever...no gameplay issues were allowed at all in the general forum. That could be the place for events, updates, players organizing things, and sharing ideas with each other...
Taran, Maka, and the rest of the staff - imported_Smurtle - 12-03-2007
Eventually they will, but not as everyone expects. Eventually everyone will GM everything they need. There's no point in selling things at outstanding prices since they're no longer rare. I've already seen two suits of sapphire. Amazing. Props to people who worked on getting them, but we shouldn't see that starting out so young. They should be rare, therefore it'll add value, then it'll make some standards set.
There is a lot of diluting, clouding posts, but there are some good ones like Tabion's and Galens'. You shouldn't ignore them and hope things work out for the best.
Tailoring, if you're looking at it from an economical point, you buy something at a certain prices, which would be bolts. The average price I've paid is 100gps per bolt. By crafting them, I make an average of 45. That's at 60 tailoring. There's no point aside from a dye tub earned or my name on it, which is just a stupid concept all together.
Buying a bolt for 100gps and selling the crafted materials for 105gps, or maybe 110 isn't much profit but it at least makes it almost worth it.