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imported_Papa Smurf - 07-25-2009
I think things are to easy now as is. Building a char is the best part of playing uo, I doubt people will leave due to skill gain. As is I think skills and such should be harder for the simple fact of implementing the damn stone. Everything should get harder for that sole purpose.
Anti AFK Macro Gump - smoke - 07-25-2009
Papa Smurf Wrote:I think things are to easy now as is. Building a char is the best part of playing uo, I doubt people will leave due to skill gain. As is I think skills and such should be harder for the simple fact of implementing the damn stone. Everything should get harder for that sole purpose.
so you basically enjoy watching your computer on and repeating a skill over 500,000 times each to finally gm it? not to mention resources.
This is one of the biggest reasons why everyone left becuase it's way to hard to start out with nothing and knowing no one and it's too long to train. Not to mention GM's make hunting hard now too becuase theres "risk" involved so i don't know how you want them to gather resources when it's almost impossible to do anything at all on this shard.
This games 10-15 years old you guys need to open your eyes, it's not like people don't have other game options to play and other stuff in real life to do. People play uo because they like the game play and playing with other players online not to sit and wait forever to play and hunt for ages to get things.
I'm really sick and tired of explanning why this shard is dead and is still dying, yet no one has even tried making it a little more easier. Papa Smurf sorry to say just because you like things tough doesn't mean the other 90% of the shard enjoys watching there computer train skills or train skills while we are at work, we would rather enjoy playing.
This is the last time i'm going to post about this because sadly it's like everyone is deaf and blind. The Staff team needs to listen more to what the players want to find out what this server needs to grow.
No disrecpect to the work that you've done, it's been a good job but you guys seriously need to consider the fact that shard hasn't producted within the 2 year period of time
EDIT: I've got a task for you, create a new character start from nothing don't give your self resources and record the time it takes to gm all the skills you need to pvp, pvm and craft to have fun on the shard. Since it's so "easy" in your book and it needs to be harder i'll check the status page when you're done and report back here and if it's 15-20 days or even more before you can start playing and you finally finish and gm your character. Ask your self is it worth playing on a shard with 15 players? Then talk to me about it being to easy. The skill gain needs to be lowered
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imported_Ryuuku - 07-25-2009
smoke Wrote:EDIT: I've got a task for you, create a new character start from nothing don't give your self resources and record the time it takes to gm all the skills you need to pvp, pvm and craft to have fun on the shard.
LOL? why you need the craft skills to have fun? I tought you guys just pvp and hunted a bit.
I assure you can gm all pvp needed skills in less than 6 days (played time).
Magery, Sword, Tatics, Eval, Healing, Anatomy, magic Resist!
I take Magery, Tatics, Healing from stone. Anatomy and Eval dont cost nothing and are easy to gm, sword you do in 1 day, magic resist you need 700 each fire field reg.
90 magery and gm eval is enought to dont fail from casting with scrolls, but You can finish it in the time too.
But dont forget even if you dont know anyone, begging is a part of the game, you can always ask 5k from someone.
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imported_LudaKrishna - 07-25-2009
and how many ppl give away 5k for free? The answer is not that many, but this just proves the point that you can't do it ALONE
hell some ppl create new chars just so they can get free stuff from ppl like me and tech (we always give out free stuff to new players)
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imported_Ryuuku - 07-25-2009
LudaKrishna Wrote:and how many ppl give away 5k for free? The answer is not that many, but this just proves the point that you can't do it ALONE
Sure you can do ALL ALONE.... what I said on the previously post you can do alone, you start with 2k enough to buy alot butchers knife to gm swords and go hunt to finish magery.
But I said its stupid you try to do everithing alone cause you can always beg for a little help.
Anti AFK Macro Gump - smoke - 07-25-2009
Ryuuku Wrote:Sure you can do ALL ALONE.... what I said on the previously post you can do alone, you start with 2k enough to buy alot butchers knife to gm swords and go hunt to finish magery.
But I said its stupid you try to do everithing alone cause you can always beg for a little help.
LOL so your going to go kill an extreme dragon with a bunch of butcher knives? you need blade scrolls and mana pots. those cost money too not only magery is needed. It takes WAY to long to gm everything that you need then hunt for money to gm SOME crafts not all but the ones needed for pvp.
Ryuuku Wrote:LOL? why you need the craft skills to have fun? I tought you guys just pvp and hunted a bit.
I assure you can gm all pvp needed skills in less than 6 days (played time).
Magery, Sword, Tatics, Eval, Healing, Anatomy, magic Resist!
I take Magery, Tatics, Healing from stone. Anatomy and Eval dont cost nothing and are easy to gm, sword you do in 1 day, magic resist you need 700 each fire field reg.
90 magery and gm eval is enought to dont fail from casting with scrolls, but You can finish it in the time too.
But dont forget even if you dont know anyone, begging is a part of the game, you can always ask 5k from someone.
Like i said this game is old and doesn't even have many players playing on it, but yes you need some craft skills for pvpers like potions and inscription which costs a numerous amount of gold and time to gm.
So let me ask you again is it worth wasting that much time hunting doing all this for 15 players? or gming all your skills and PRAYING for a miracle that we will actually get players? Something needs to be done you know it, I know it and so does the staff. Just because it's the summer it's not exuse that every single UO player went on vacation and that's why they stopped playing
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imported_Ryuuku - 07-25-2009
smoke Wrote:LOL so your going to go kill an extreme dragon with a bunch of butcher knives? you need blade scrolls and mana pots. those cost
Oh I forgot your world is reduced to the xtreme dragon...
. You going to have 90 magery enough to cast bs and ev you can kill normall dragons without much troubles. Oh I forgot you dont know how to cast a spell by the book it have to be bs and ev scrolls.
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If you think dont worth the time to play here, WHAT THE **** You doing here mining 11 hours a day and gming all skills? If you think the server not going to have more players again go find another one to play or another game.
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imported_LudaKrishna - 07-25-2009
Quote:If you think the server not going to have more players again go find another one to play or another game.
and with that mentality it's no wonder we have only 10 active people. You have to look at it from a business perpestive, if you can't beat the competition (aka other games) then your running out of luck. Like smoke said who the hell is going to wait 2-3 weeks to actually play a game that is 10 years old just to find out that the playerbase is low anyways?
People don't care about going somewhere else, you have a handful of ppl that DO care/ that are loyal, which is the 10 active ppl. You guys have to realize that because it's something that doesn't seem to get through to ppl here.
It's funny seriously, cuz it's not only us that have been saying stuff about the skillgain it's others too but people here just don't want to accept that fact. It's like you have a lot of people telling you something, but it just goes in one ear and out the other.
P.S: Haven't seen Mesca on since he saw/told me skillgain is messed up, he musta left.
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imported_Ryuuku - 07-25-2009
LudaKrishna Wrote:It's funny seriously, cuz it's not only us that have been saying stuff about the skillgain it's others too but people here just don't want to accept that fact. It's like you have a lot of people telling you something, but it just goes in one ear and out the other.
You gonna keep saying it till the end of days, and I gonna keep saying the same about pvp.
The only thing I can say is, put skillstone to chose 5 skills and remove all crafts and resource gathering from there.
Anti AFK Macro Gump - smoke - 07-25-2009
Ryuuku Wrote:Oh I forgot your world is reduced to the xtreme dragon... . You going to have 90 magery enough to cast bs and ev you can kill normall dragons without much troubles. Oh I forgot you dont know how to cast a spell by the book it have to be bs and ev scrolls. .
If you think dont worth the time to play here, WHAT THE **** You doing here mining 11 hours a day and gming all skills? If you think the server not going to have more players again go find another one to play or another game.
First off getting the resources to hunt requires money which a new player does not have, second he would need to explore to find these spots also..
I never said i was wasting my time playing on the shard i said why would a NEW player come to the shard macro all that time when he sees there is no active staff and no playerbase to a shard when it's this hard to train skills.. I gave my friend 8k ma scrolls 60k 5k aids blackrock set 2k blade spirit scrolls and he still didnt gm magery and hes run out of supplys and your saying it's not hard to accomplish stuff? open your eyes just because it was hard for us to do things at the beginning if we need to change it to get players so be it change it.
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imported_Papa Smurf - 07-25-2009
I hate when people put off the real reason we have 20-25 active players. The reason is lag, people dont want to hunt and pvp with lag so they go inactive until the new hardware change. Its not skill gain. People like making chars.
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imported_Ryuuku - 07-25-2009
If your friend chose magery on stone had 8k ma scrolls 60k and still dont finished it, well I think he goed to the jhellom pub and spend the money in the sluts there.
What resource you need to hunt a dragon ( that have in destard in any shard you go have dragons in destard) 30 each reg, cast a bunch of blade spirirts by the spell and 1 vortex.
30 each reg dont cost 900gp.
Its not hard to get started, just if you come from a shard where you start with 50k money a set of midle armor and the best bow with lame skillgain, so you dont know how to do things by yourself or hunt with limited suplie.
Like papa said what make people leave is the lag what seens we arent going to solve till next year ¬¬.