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The way skills worked in 51a - Habibi Jones - 04-13-2012
In 51a, you could simply tab out of combat and stealth, meditate, detect, etc.
It's really a bother that the combat check here is a total check and not a check just for the player trying to use the skill. This is not how 51a was at all and it is something that I think was a key aspect of that version of Ultima.
The way skills worked in 51a - tranith - 04-13-2012
+1
The way skills worked in 51a - Loki - 04-13-2012
Not sure if I understand. Are you saying tab should cancel those skills but you should still be able to start them in warmode. Or are you saying that tabbing from warmode into peace should immediately allow you to use those skills and it currently does not?
The way skills worked in 51a - Echo - 04-13-2012
Are you saying that when you tab out you still can't use skills because mobs that are still targeting you put you back in "battle". So basically whether or not you are in war mode should be the only check that controls if you can use a skill?
The way skills worked in 51a - Raziel_ - 04-13-2012
he's saying that if he taps tab out of war and uses hiding for example and a mob spots him it will prevent him from hiding!
The way skills worked in 51a - Camila - 04-13-2012
I think he is saying he doesn't like the fact that after attacking or being attacked by someone, even if you tab out of war mode you still can't use some skills such as stealth and meditation because it will say that you are "concerned with thoughts of battle". To be honest I was a little thrown off by this as well initially, but now I think it kind of makes sense if you think about it. Even if you stop attacking, I can't imagine you would be able to "meditate" or play a musical instrument while a monster is still chasing you. Unfortunately it makes those skills much less powerful.
The way skills worked in 51a - Raziel_ - 04-13-2012
Camila Wrote:I think he is saying he doesn't like the fact that after attacking or being attacked by someone, even if you tab out of war mode you still can't use some skills such as stealth and meditation because it will say that you are "concerned with thoughts of battle". To be honest I was a little thrown off by this as well initially, but now I think it kind of makes sense if you think about it. Even if you stop attacking, I can't imagine you would be able to "meditate" or play a musical instrument while a monster is still chasing you. Unfortunately it makes those skills much less powerful.actually you can use any bardic skill if you tab out.. and you dont even have to be thaaat fast!
The way skills worked in 51a - Camila - 04-13-2012
Raziel_ Wrote:actually you can use any bardic skill if you tab out.. and you dont even have to be thaaat fast!
Mmm I thought provocation worked the same way, maybe I remember wrong... but that's definitely how stealth and meditation work
The way skills worked in 51a - Habibi Jones - 04-13-2012
Camila Wrote:I think he is saying he doesn't like the fact that after attacking or being attacked by someone, even if you tab out of war mode you still can't use some skills such as stealth and meditation because it will say that you are "concerned with thoughts of battle". To be honest I was a little thrown off by this as well initially, but now I think it kind of makes sense if you think about it. Even if you stop attacking, I can't imagine you would be able to "meditate" or play a musical instrument while a monster is still chasing you. Unfortunately it makes those skills much less powerful.
That's exactly what I'm saying. In sphere 51a you could tab out of combat and immediately use skills like stealth, meditation, detect hidden regardless of who/what was attacking you. This was great and I miss it, doesn't feel right the way it is now.
The way skills worked in 51a - Mael - 04-13-2012
agree i swear i have to tab in and out sometimes several times to use some skills
The way skills worked in 51a - soMa - 04-14-2012
it feels like it is a distance thing, I agree it's annoying.
If something is chasing you and you hit a certain distance away from them and tab out it will work. The current way it's set up is so you can't use the skill hide in pvp unless your like 1-2 screens away.
The way skills worked in 51a - sm0ke - 04-14-2012
Habibi Jones Wrote:That's exactly what I'm saying. In sphere 51a you could tab out of combat and immediately use skills like stealth, meditation, detect hidden regardless of who/what was attacking you. This was great and I miss it, doesn't feel right the way it is now.
so you want people to use meditation in ganking? and want to be able to use hiding while someone is attacking you face to face with a weapon as long as you keep tabbing? doesn't make much sense to me.