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More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Token - 02-07-2009
This is a long post (sorry)
I would like for there to be more mustangs spawns in the world. I know of a few but they are hotspots for GM tamers and competing against them is a pain. When they run up and tame it it in 1-3 trys and leaves the low skill tamer at a loss.
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Can the staff put active mustangs one of each in the duel pits so the players knows they are active. ex mtyh orn have one in duel pits means it active if not there it is not spawning. That way players dont waste regs and gold buying more regs from recalling a millions times to see if the ride had respawned or go to duel pits and see the active spawns.
The spawns I know about.
Gold - not sure on it havent seen it in a while.
Champagne - it stills spawns.
Aqua - never seen it in the world so I dont know.
Black rock - seen it but very tough to get to.
Blizzard - not sure on it aint seen it in a while.
Blood rock - never seen it in the world so I dont know.
Daemon - seen it but very tough to get to.
Marsh - never seen it in the world so I dont know.
Emerald - seen it but no idea how to get to.
Fire - not sure on it haven't seen it in a while.
Myth orn - it still spawns.
Oceanic - never seen it in the world so I dont know.
Orn - never seen it in the world so I dont know.
Sand orn - it still spawns.
Adamantine - this one I aint seen in months so I dont know.
Valorite - it still spawns.
Wizzard - aint seen it in a while so I'm not sure.
Zostrich - never seen it in the world so I dont know.
New spawns
Lava zos - not sure.
Chimera - not sure.
Charcoal llama- not sure.
random stang - not sure.
( I know there are some that are left out I dont know them all can a staff member help the players out with the new spawns that are added and let the players know if they are still spawning or not it would be very helpful. Thanks. )
Also I think there should be 2 more spawns added one in vesper gy horse or llama dont care if ugly color or cool color. And one above minoc mines horse or llama dont care on the color either. I would like to be able to get to more spawns to gm taming because it is tough to tame against a GM tamer, plus it would give players a reason to get out of britain and go explore the world. Tame a ride and trade it or sell it.
This part of the post is not a idea or suggestion im make one post not alot. Im be taking a break from the shard prob for a while I got some things to do In real life and prob wont have time to play like I used too, but Im not quiting I just wont have the time to play but if i do have time Ill hop on the shard and see what is going on, maybe in the future I can acclompish the one goal I set out to complete which was to GM all skills im at 4388.5 total skill points. So Ill see u all from time to time hopes the shard gets some more players.
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Jiraiya - 02-07-2009
I made a few posts about this same problem. The problem is that this system is too easy to monopolize, you're absolutely right. Theo, Sam, myself, all gm tamers and we check nearly every spawn several times a day, its really only other gm tamers who can get anything who already know the spawns. New tamers cannot find any of the spawns because all the GM tamers keep everything constantly tamed. Its completely unfair to new players.
I came up with what I think is a good solution, it goes something like this.
When a mount spawns from its original spawnpoint (lets use gold for this example), its given a spawn specific ID, when a tamer comes along and tames it an account tag is added to their account and a timer is started. This person (and all chars on his account) cannot tame again from this spawn until the timer expires. The gold stang will then quickly respawn within a few minutes, rather than hours or days.
This allows new tamers to always be able to find new stangs if they make the effort to search for them. The timer itself can be modified by staff to increase or decrease the rarity of some mounts. This will not hurt any GM tamers, and it levels the playing field for new tamers wanting to explore and find new rides.
Any of you gms capable of doing account tagging maybe want to take a shot at this? A new craftable book could also be added similar to a killbook, requirements to craft something like gm inscript, animal lore, animal taming, vetrinary. A book that shows how long you have left till you can tame each stang again, when you tame it the first time its added into your book along with the coords where you got it.
edit: btw token to help ya out I've listed for you what I know spawns. But you should know that many of the spawns are not just go there and tame it, many of them require completing complex dungeons, similar to deceit though that is still the hardest. If I list a difficulty, it means that it requires you to complete a quest or dungeon environment to get it.
Gold - spawns
Champagne - spawns
Aqua - spawns
Black rock - spawns - Extremely hard difficulty
Blizzard - spawns (i think, i personally havnt gotten it, and i think its been moved again, dunno)
Blood rock - spawns
Daemon - spawns - medium difficulty
Marsh - spawns
Emerald - spawns (I dont know how to get it either)
Fire - doesnt spawn (as far as i know)
Myth orn - spawns
Oceanic - spawns
Orn - spawns
Sand orn - spawns
Adamantine - spawns (not at titan fort)
Valorite - spawns
Wizzard - spawns - medium difficulty
Zostrich - spawns
New spawns
Silver Llama - spawns - medium difficulty
Lava zos - spawns - high difficulty
Chimera - spawns - high difficulty
Charcoal llama - spawns - high difficulty
Undead Orn - spawns - high difficulty
random stang - spawns
Lol 200th post w00t
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Ryuuku - 02-07-2009
Bahh... Me and Theo found all spawns while Rabbi Ministry and Just do IT was very active.
I think people need negotiation to get what want I dont found all for myself I traded some with sandra.
Give me something I want Crazy and I can give you something you want like a spawn maybe. Just all about Bussines.
I dont liked your Idead Jira it hurt me alot
... Its like have 6 Gm tamers and 6 GOLD stangs a DAY or 6 lava or 6 charcoal, hell it go destruct the tamer economy, more than it already is cause no one buy it.
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Jiraiya - 02-07-2009
Actually if you had read my post more carefully, you'd realise an account tag would stop you from using 6 gm tamer chars to tame 6 a day. No matter which char you tame it with, your entire account cannot tame from that spawn until the timer expires. It wouldnt ruin the mount economy because the timers could be set by staff to increase or decrease the mount supply, instead of being set by the players who, with enough time on their hands, can tame everything on the server and remove the chance for anyone else to. Say there are 5 gm tamers active, yeah, they can tame 5 lava zostrich, but if the timer is 3 weeks on lava zos, thats still a RARE mount. Without stopping new players from finding it. And lava zos is a tough one anyway, not just anyone is going to try it.
Also I traded for many of the spawns I found, I only actually found 3 world spawning mounts on my own. But a fair few of the in demand mounts are in obvious places, deceit, chimera fortress, yew crypts, etc. People are just lazy and dont want to put in the effort to work their way through and get them. So mounts that are actually fairly hard to get will remain very valuble regardless.
Lets use gold stang for example again, I believe its around a 24 hour spawn. Now if I come along and tame it, no one searching for it can find it. And I can probably get it again the next day at around the same time. So then thats two days where no one else can find it or tame it. My idea changes it around only slightly. The mount will respawn near instantly, but your account cannot tame that gold stang again for 72 hours. So now you have to wait for 3 days to get it again, but your not taking away from anyone elses ability to find it or raise skill on it. And you still get your mustang. If the staff wants to make it rarer, they can set the timer to a week. Want more of them on the market for cheaper prices? Lower timer to a day.
The players are exactly that, players, the objective for a player in UO is (generally speaking) to aquire wealth and items, rides, etc. And most of the time, they will not care if taking all they can is hurting other players. The staff however are objective on something like this, they can make an unbiased descision about whether there are too many or too few of certain mounts in game, and adjust accordingly to raise or lower their value.
I hope this helped clear up what I'm talking about. Also dont forget, the players still have to actually find these mounts, they still must work through the dungeons to get them. Or explore parts of the world in search for them. But rather then what we have now, which is, a player looks and looks and looks and passes many mount spawns many times, but never ever seeing them there, the player has no idea. This isnt fair to them.
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Gang-Bang - 02-07-2009
+1. I love Jiraiya's idea. Mostly cause i really want to use rides usable in ganking, not just opening ur bank and looking on ur "treasure" like a gollums. Its not about making rides easier to get, its just about allowing everyone who will work on searching for spawns/completing dungeons get a mount-reward for it. And no, people will still buy rides. For lot of ppl its just too boring to raise taming/go through dungens/search for spawns. So they'll still buy it. And if it will decrease prices a bit, its only + from my standpoint, cause current prices arent resonable. Noone who's planing to pvp on mount will buy it for 50k, just only people whos dying VERY rarely..
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Jiraiya - 02-07-2009
Personally I wouldnt mind at all if some mounts were cheaper. I mean if I could pick up one gold stang a day regardless of other tamers, I'd set the price down to like 5k on them. That makes them a viable mount to gank with. Would also be nice to be able to steal mounts off people you kill. I dont think you can currently?
But of course, mounts like charcoal llama, chimera, blackrock, lava zos, those are very high end, hard to get, and of course must be very valuble (100kish). So the timer on those could be set much longer. If all the active gm tamers went and got it, there'd be like 5 of them on the market now, but if the timer is 3 weeks to get them again, there is no more for 3 weeks. Thats a rare and valuble mount, and if you lose it its a while before you can replace.
That doesnt mean if you're a badass that you cant gank on um though. I'm sure I've seen pedro ganking on a blackrock stang in full blackrock armor with a hells hally. True he eventually lost it all, but still thats pretty cool risking loot like that to give people incentive to go after a great pvper.
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Ryuuku - 02-07-2009
Gold stangs are 20k ... WTH is it expensive? anyone who is able to pvp is able to make 20k in less than 10 min. I just dont like the idea, for me leave as it is now.
And someone can come and say I like that cause I can own they all. But trust me in the last one week I just tamed a gold stang at all. I dont check every hour, i check it like 3 times a day or none when Im busy in rl.
So just stop being lazy and go search around and use your brain to see the hot spots. I can tell you that have like 10 mounts in obviusly place around world.
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Gang-Bang - 02-07-2009
20k? For useless ride? Yeah, pvper can buy it, no doubt. But rest supplies for one gank worth like 10k. Why someone will pay the triple price everytime he going to gank? This ride will die as soon as player will, and its DOESNT help you in any way, its not like useful supplies, u cant gank without em. But paying 20k for UGLY gold mustang... ? Cmon. Even u, samurai mostly riding regular horse/llama. Even tho u got hundreds of rare rides...
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Bart - 02-07-2009
Gang-Bang Wrote:This ride will die as soon as player will
why kill the stang? you can agro the stang or herd it, make gate and lure it to your house... wait till the stang leaves hes last owner and tame it to yourself.
thats the way we used to do it... and thats the way i still do it. :icon_twisted:
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Ryuuku - 02-07-2009
Cant Gate animal no more just Pack Horse and LLama. Since an update time ago, dont know if its still that way but was.
Yea stang can die when you die at pvp, but If you is a great pvper it can survive for a loong time until it dies. And it show you are a great pvper having the courage to ride a "rare" stang when pvping, at last I think that way.
For sure people who dont know pvp and can die easy at a fight dont going to use a stang to pvp. It show he not that good pvping and dont deserve it. ( I include myself on that group, I dont know pvp that good so thats why I dont ride stang everywhere.)
I still think taming is good as it is right now.
And you can find daemon, gold, myth orn, normal orn, and maybe sand orn for 20/25k
Some stangs at IN was like the same price as here, but there every good pvper used to ride a stang even 100k stangs ( I remember Vingador and some others using saph stang for pvp). So dont was a problemy paying much at a stang when you know you was a good pvper and dosnt going to die easy.
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Gang-Bang - 02-07-2009
U really think if u are not bad in pvp that u will die alot less? I mean, yeah, if its 1v1 or 2v2 u will die alot less, but noone will fight againest you if they are sure that u will win. They might duel not as good as u do, still it doesnt makes them stupid. They will go only when they will have huge advantage, like 5v2 or even 8v2. And yeah, its your choice if u dont want to go vs 8 ppl , u can avoid this battle, but then u wont fight any ppl at all, cause noone will go 2v2 vs you if u'kill em for sure. So basically it makes rares useless for everyone. All what u can do is ****ing "enjoy" taming them. Cause u wont dare ride something what worth 50k outside of town anyway. Lawl
Anyway, idc, leave as it is now. To be honest i already lost hope in this shard. I doubt anything will be changed here. We'r waiting a whole year for server now, and everyone knows that we WONT have it. Anyway staff keep saying that "we'll send emails as soon as new server comes" = Never;p
More Mustang Spawns and Info!!! - imported_Shade - 02-07-2009
Meh its possible to find the stangs even when people hoard them. A few of them are quite obvious too if you stumble in the general area even if the mount isn't there.
I thought, at first tagging an account with a max amount of new tames might be a good idea we can work with but the truth is I don't agree with it anymore. My first reason is, by doing this it puts people who earned GM taming at the same playing field as someone with 40 taming and thats not how it should be. What would be the point in GMing the skill if it didn't give you an advantage or benefit... I hardly count failing less much of a benefit. Another reason I don't like it is because I just don't like limiting anything. Its bad enough we have skills and spells disabled, the last thing I want is to make taming half disabled.
As for mount prices... well its hardly the staffs concern that tamers are greedy. They could price mounts at 500k each if they want, just don't buy from the overpriced vendors and prices will eventually drop if they aren't making money off it.
New mounts will be coming when the playerbase picks up a little more. I have a new mount that I am just itching to add but as it stands there is practically 1 mount for every active player online and thats just too much.
Oh and the only one on that list that doesn't spawn is the fire stang. Also the emerald is being changed soon.